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Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by robxorb »

MattRix wrote: post #664
robxorb wrote: post #649

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Killed my trust also, "drowning in launch" is no excuse for not rectifying this immediately. Posting a real-time video right now would take five minutes and clear up all this bad publicity right when they need to.

There are other real time videos on this page https://daylightco.gorgias.help/en-US#article-493382

I've seen that page - it has 16 videos and it's unclear which are sped up, by how much, and which aren't. Some look sped up to my eye, and even if they aren't, I simply can't trust they aren't because they've shown they won't inform me so.

This is a super bad look for a new product offering whose entire killer feature and market differentiation is based on its supposed blazing speed.

Posting ANY video that's sped up, without clearly labelling by exactly how much, and when (eg, with a "3x speed" text overlay as is almost standard on internet video), is a huge mistake introducing a product differentiating on speed.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by IggleSniggle »

al_borland wrote: post #435
robsh wrote: post #343

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When plugged in to a computer, it would be cool if it reverts to being a smart display with touch screen. It could still charge and transfer files too maybe? I don’t know enough about USB-C, but I really wish devices could do dual function like this.

When venturing into the file transfer territory, a lot of employers are going to veto the device over security concerns. Just like they wouldn’t want employees plugging in random USB drives found on the street.

Or USB drives period. My former employer didn't allow cell phones or really any device that could connect things from the outside. We had the Internet, but it all had to go through their own managed pipes.

Totally fine to bring in a monitor though. Not sure if that would still be true today, given the connectivity of things. I bet you could still bring in a monitor, but you'd risk needing to prove that there was no way it could do anything other than be a monitor.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by layer8 »

SoylentOrange wrote: post #659

I was really excited for this - I’ve been saying to all my friends that I wish I could use my kindle for more. Obviously the kindle is quite slow so it’s not a good fit for reading on the web (I use Instapaper a lot and wish I could have that experience in eInk). I also read scientific papers and those often have figures that are very hard to read on a small black and white display, and I tend to scribble in the marg…

The new Pencil Pro has Find My, which might help in such a situation.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by fennecbutt »

boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

Given it has a matte finish for writing, which is super cool, but what about wear and tear?

Writing tactility is provided by friction from the matte surface, wouldn't this wear down or scratch over time? If so is the front "glass" bonded to the display, can it be replaced or refurbished?

Super freaking cool tho, was a sad day when pebble died (sharp MiP display) and I've always wanted to play with epaper some more, such a shame eink basically tried to corner the industry for so long. Do you ever intend to sell display modules using this tech for makers and the like?

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by ngneer »

mbreese wrote: post #683
hallman76 wrote: post #682

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> Android tablet is a tough sell for my employer due to compliance, security, and such From a compliance POV what's an acceptable alternative? Would some unix variant be any more palatable?

In some industries, anything that “computes” or has a data connection is strictly regulated. If data can move in or out, it needs to be verified. So, if you want to avoid those validation steps, it would need to be a dumb device without an OS. Like the parent said - just a monitor.

I agree with the sentiment, but it is harder and harder to find truly "dumb" devices anymore. USB has a complicated (and vulnerable) firmware stack. Monitors have hackable on screen display controllers. Unless you want to go back to VGA... Just saying...

https://github.com/redballoonshenanigans/monitordarkly

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by 7bit »

throwaway81523 wrote: post #650

$729, lol. Inkplate 10 is still on my want list. A 14 inch version at $729 would be of more interest than a 10 inch version which is too small to read full page PDFs. 60 hz update for e-paper is nice but imho not that valuable. I see it as a reading device not video.

That price is CRAZY. Definitive no from my side.

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Post by cypherpunks01 »

soulofmischief wrote: post #420
cypherpunks01 wrote: post #388

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I'd recommend giving grayscale mode a try not only during bedtime, but all the time! My Pixel has been set this way for a couple months and it has decreased my mindless phone usage by simply making the phone more boring overall, without any new device or major sacrifices. I became concerned that I'd turn it off when I temporarily needed color and forget to turn it back on, so instead I used Tasker to listen for L-R s…

On my Pixel using GrapheneOS, I can go into Accessibility settings and enable gesture support for toggling Grayscale support, without the need for Tasker. I'm unsure how other Android ROMs stack up but I imagine stock Pixel has this setting. It's a great feature, just swipe up from the bottom with two fingers whenever I need color.

Huh, didn't realize that was there! Works on stock Pixel, you're right, definitely useful feature to have

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by vaylian »

jimmysong wrote: post #159
boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

As one of the beta testers, let me just say that I really like this device. It's very different than a kindle, kobo or reMarkable in that the refresh rate really makes a big difference. When I show this device to people, I show them how quickly zooming in on a PDF is. It's way faster and more responsive than any e-ink screen and it's way less addicting than the typical laptop, phone or tablet. I'm attempting to make…

What is your experience with writing code on the device? Does the grayscale impact syntax highlighting?

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Post by askura »

noduerme wrote: post #428
alemanek wrote: post #303

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Adding an additional comment here for a little extra visibility. I would absolutely love, like really love, a USB-C portrait monitor version of this. If I could just plug this in to my existing laptop and use it for reading specs, technical docs, …etc that would be amazing. Android tablet is a tough sell for my employer due to compliance, security, and such. So buying one of those for work use would take like a year…

I second this. I really enjoy reading and writing on an Onyx e-ink tab, and I like the full Android functionality, but I can never use it for work or even for personal email logins, because I don't trust their custom Android build. I would be somewhat more inclined to trust Daylight than Onyx, but any custom OS is too potentially vulnerable to backdoors for my use cases. Something like this that you could load your o…

I would love it just as a screen for things like Slack or Discord as I'm on the move a lot :D

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Post by vaylian »

Zambyte wrote: post #637
Naracion wrote: post #633

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Unsure how you are intending to use it for 1:1s and meetings--I don't believe this has a camera, so it can't be your primary device you are taking the call on. Of course, as a note-taking device during a meeting, this would shine! :)

They probably meant meeting in person with this tablet instead of a laptop.

And taking notes during the meeting. Maybe even demo something.
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