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Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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OpenAI will settle, not sure how you read that in reverse.

Settling isn't unilateral. OpenAI can offer to settle, but if she doesn't accept, there will be no settlement.

I also said “they” instead of “her”, I’m confused as to why anybody misinterpreted what I said.

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Not OP, or the replier, but I think the longer answer here is that if Scarlett Johansson can't win a lawsuit against a company that has effectively: (1) Used content she has created (vocal lines) in order to train a generative AI with the ability to create more of that content (vocal lines), without permission or payment, let alone acknowledgement (2) In doing so removed the scarcity of the content she provides (Gene…

Maybe, but I don't think it's likely that they used any actual copyrighted material of her voice. It's not illegal to want one voice actor to play a role (or record voice data), then get a different, somewhat (but not actually very) similar sounding voice actor to do it instead.

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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The more I find out about Altman the more I agree with the previous board about removing him. The guy just feels sleazy to me. Though he is doing what I want and that is not giving a fuck about artificial monopolies granted by government ie copyright

Actually it’s the copyright that is supposed to prevent a monopoly arising in the form of an OpenAI, or Google News back in the day.

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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I suspect that'll be OpenAI's defense.

That is what discovery is for. If this would ever get to that phase. Someone from OpenAi hired the agency who hired the voice talent (or talents) for the voice data. They sent them a brief explaining what they are looking for, followed by a metric ton of correspondence over samples and contracts and such. If anywhere during those written communications anyone wrote “we are looking for a ScarlettJ imitator”, or words…

Discovery works both ways. The original Her voice actress[1] was recast to someone more SoCal in post-production, so there is evidence of the flirty erotic AI style itself not being a unique enough selling point.

It will come down to what makes the complaining celebrity's voice iconic, which for Scarjo is the 'gravelly' bit. Which smooth Sky had none of.

[1] actress reading poem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWEEAjRFJKc

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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This statement from scarlet really changed my perspective. I use and loved the Sky voice and I did feel it sounded a little like her, but moreover it was the best of their voice offerings. I was mad when they removed it. But now I’m mad it was ever there to begin with. This timeline makes it clear that this wasn’t a coincidence and maybe not even a hiring of an impressionist (which is where things get a little more w…

The thing about the situation is that Altman is willing to lie and steal a celebrity's voice for use in ChatGPT. What he did, the timeline, everything - is sleazy if, in fact, that's the story. The really concerning part here is that Altman is, and wants to be, a large part of AI regulation [0]. Quite the public contradiction. [0] https://www.businessinsider.com/sam-altman-openai-artificial...

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Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Well, this confirms that OpenAI have been shooting from the hip, not that we needed much confirmation. The fact that they repeatedly tried to hire Johansson, then went ahead and made a soundalike while explicitly describing that they were trying to make it be like her voice in the movie … is pretty bad for them.

This is so pointless and petty too. Like "hee hee our software is just like the movies". And continuing the trend of tech moguls watching bleak satire and thinking it's aspirational.

Sci-Fi Author: In my book I invented the Torment Nexus as a cautionary tale

Tech Company: At long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from classic sci-fi novel Don't Create The Torment Nexus

https://x.com/AlexBlechman/status/1457842724128833538?lang=e...

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Given the sequence of events, Scarlett Johannsson suing OpenAI is a logical outcome. Sam Altman, of all people, should be anticipating this outcome for sure.

Assuming Sam Altman is not stupid, this could be part of some elaborate plan and a calculated strategy. The end goals could range from immediate practical outcomes like increased publicity (see ChatGPT's mobile app revenue doubled overnight: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/chatgpts-mobile-app-revenue-s...) and market impact, to more complex objectives like influencing future legal frameworks and societal norms around AI.

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Well, this confirms that OpenAI have been shooting from the hip, not that we needed much confirmation. The fact that they repeatedly tried to hire Johansson, then went ahead and made a soundalike while explicitly describing that they were trying to make it be like her voice in the movie … is pretty bad for them.

It’s definitely sketchy (classic OpenAI) But my question is: is what they did actually illegal? Can someone copyright their own voice?

Not here to weigh in on the answers to these questions. But it certainly feels pretty scary to have to ask such questions about a company leading the LLM space, considering the U.S. currently has little to no legal infrastructure to reign in these companies.

Plus the tone of the voice is likely an unimportant detail to theor success. So pushing up against the legal boundaries in this specific domain is at best strange and at worst a huge red flag for their ethics and how they operate.

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Well, that statement lays out a damning timeline: - OpenAI approached Scarlett last fall, and she refused. - Two days before the GPT-4o launch, they contacted her agent and asked that she reconsider. (Two days! This means they already had everything they needed to ship the product with Scarlett’s cloned voice.) - Not receiving a response, OpenAI demos the product anyway, with Sam tweeting “her” in reference to Scarle…

What I don’t understand is what they expected to happen?

Apparently they had no confidence in defending themselves, so why even release with the voice in the first place?

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