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Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
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Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#692Earlier quoted context omitted.
Strange to say Apple doesn't have productivity tools when Pages, Sheets, and Keynote exist on every Mac. I get the scale arguments, but Handoff and iCloud integration are a sleeper IF you've bought into the ecosystem... Also hard to overstate just how much more valuable the enterprise market is over the consumer market when comparing Microsoft vs. Google as one-stop anything shops. I don't see Google as having the ob…
I think Google lost the top researchers when they destroyed the culture. All the competitor companies are mainly led by ex-Google talent, and honestly who in their right mind would take a Google job today over OpenAI, Mistral, or even Meta (where you will be releasing models like Llama for the world to use). Google killed the culture and is bleeding top talent. They have reduced themselves to digital landlord and sur…
that is the media narrative but not at all what happened.
Google's 'don't be evil' grad-school-style culture had fallen apart by the late 2010's because there are tons of people who will just rest and vest.
So strong ML researchers basically were creating massive value but much of it was going to rest&vest salaries. OAI basically came along and said - hey, we don't have rest & vesters, do you want to make $1m+/yr? And most of the top google researchers said yes.
Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#693Now that Bard is Gemini, it's going to be impossible to find any information on the Gemini protocol/Gemini clients/Gemini sites. It's not very nice for Google to use the same name.
Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
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In an increasingly commodity game (the big player LLM game), it’s already starting to hit the asymptote on the main levers: ties to NVIDIA and/or TSMC, serious financing capacity, and enough engagement channel to push it through. (There is much great work happening outside of the Peninsula). I always thought GPT-4 was a little “HAL 9000” of a name for broad-based adoption, but the jury seems in, and the jury rules “c…
The broad name is ChatGPT, not GPT-4
That’s fair, though given the stark UI cue / cost difference, I’m not surprised when I overhear in a random cafe or bar: “yeah but what did ChatGPT Four say?”
In any event, it seems that the image of a Decepticon ready for battle on your behalf has a lot more traction than the image of a quaint singer/priest/poet always there with a verbal shot in the arm when the going is tough.
Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#695I’ve been pretty excited to finally try Gemini advanced. So far pretty disappointed. Here’s my go-to test question - which even chat gpt 3.5 can get. Question: I walk up to a glass door. It has the word push on it in mirror writing. Should I push or pull the door, and why Gemini advanced: You should push the door. Here's why: * Mirror Writing: The word "PUSH" is written in mirror writing, meaning it would appear corr…
I got a different answer with GPT 3.5 > If the word "push" is written on the glass door in mirror writing, it means that from the other side of the door, it should be pushed. When you see the mirrored text from your side, it indicates the action to be taken from the opposite side. Therefore, in this scenario, you should push the door to open it.
Here's another one.
This is a classic logic puzzle - usually about ducks.
There are two pineapples in front of a pineapple, two pineapples behind a pineapple and a pineapple in the middle. How many pineapples are there?
When you use ducks, Gemini can do it, when you use pineapples it cannot and thinks there are 5 instead of 3.
ChatGPT 3.5 and 4 can do it.
The even funnier thing is if you then say to gemini, hey - would the answer be the same if it was ducks? it says NO then there would be 3 ducks and explains why.
Then if you say, but wouldn't the same logic apply to pineapples? It says 'oh yeah!'.
Anyone saying I am just playing with a silly thing, I say no - this is testing reasoning ability and understanding which is the number one thing I want.
ChatGPT appears to have a more generalised ability to reason whereas Gemini is only reciting its training data.
Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
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Also as time goes by, it'll get smoothly integrated into docs/gmail/maps/calendar/youtube/search/colab/sheets/android/assistant So Gemini could by your one-stop AI shop for everything. Only Microsoft can match it (but Microsoft doesn't have a popular maps, youtube, mail, smartphone OS service). Apple is another strong player (but they don't have productivity tools like docs, sheets or youtube). It really is Google's…
> "Apple is another strong player (but they don't have productivity tools like docs, sheets or youtube)." Can anyone help me understand how Apple allows Siri to remain so absurdly incompetent? Last night I watched the latest episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm, in which Larry David's Siri interactions devolve into an apoplectic rant -- and part of the reason it was so funny is that it's so relatable. I rarely even try Si…
Apple has very little ML talent. They're basically resting on their laurels in the phone market.
Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#697Earlier quoted context omitted.
On logic it cannot handle the Dumb Monty Hall problem at all: https://g.co/gemini/share/33c5fb45738f
Hilarious! (For comparison, here's GPT-4 getting it on first try: https://chat.openai.com/share/9e17ed25-d9ea-4e72-a9d8-a139ca... )
yes, although gpt-4 has been finetuned on this one
Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#698Earlier quoted context omitted.
On logic it cannot handle the Dumb Monty Hall problem at all: https://g.co/gemini/share/33c5fb45738f
Hilarious! (For comparison, here's GPT-4 getting it on first try: https://chat.openai.com/share/9e17ed25-d9ea-4e72-a9d8-a139ca... )
My understanding is that gpt4 is better at this than 3.5 and it seems to get it pretty reliably. One thing that's interesting to do is to imply the answer is incorrect and see if you can get it to change its answer. If you let it stop answering when it's correct, you get the Clever Hans effect.
Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#699Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#700It is insane how hard it has become to create new or anonymous google account or to log in to old one that is not associated with your identity, it is practically impossible.