Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

Post by vasco » Mon, Nov 20, 2023, 10:29 AM UTC

9dev wrote: post #288

I don’t quite buy your Cyberpunk utopia where the Megacorp finally rids us of those pesky ethics qualms (or ”shackles“, as you phrased it.) Microsoft can now proceed without the guidance of a council that actually has humanities interests in mind, not only those of Microsoft shareholders. I don’t know whether all that caution will turn out to have been necessary, but I guess we’re just gleefully heading into whatever…

Post by cutemonster » Mon, Nov 20, 2023, 10:34 AM UTC

DebtDeflation wrote: post #673

manojlds wrote: post #582

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> The board did not remove Sam over any specific disagreement on safety, their reasoning was completely different from that. https://twitter.com/eshear/status/1726526112019382275

>And it’s clear that the process and communications around Sam’s removal has been handled very badly, which has seriously damaged our trust. This is amazing. His very first public statement is to criticize the board that just hired him.

Post by hef19898 » Mon, Nov 20, 2023, 10:36 AM UTC

thworp wrote: post #670

altacc wrote: post #386

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I had hoped nobody read cyberpunk books and thought that was a description of utopia but consistently we see billionaires trying to act out the sci-fi novels from their youth or impose dystopian world views from Ayn Rand.

Eh, so far they have nothing on the people trying to act out utopias in the 20th century. I will wake up when the billionaire Zeitgeist goes past resource allocation and into "cleanse the undesirables".

Post by tonyedgecombe » Mon, Nov 20, 2023, 10:38 AM UTC

jacquesm wrote: post #515

rjtavares wrote: post #384

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This whole weekend will probably be a case study in both Corporate Governance (Microsoft may look bad here for not anticipating the problem) and Negotiation (a masterclass by Satya: gave Ilya what he wanted and got most of OpenAI's commercial potential anyway).

As much as I dislike Microsoft: they played this exactly right. No boardseat: no culpability or conflict of interest, catch the falling pieces and reposition themselves stronger. What makes you say they didn't anticipate the problem? If they had anticipated it I don't see what else they could have done without making themselves part of the problem.

Post by layer8 » Mon, Nov 20, 2023, 10:41 AM UTC

rjtavares wrote: post #384

shubhamjain wrote: post #99

Have to give it to Satya. There's a thin possibility that Microsoft would have to write-off its whole $10B (or more?) investment in OpenAI, but that isn't Satya's focus. The focus is on what he can do next. Maybe, recruit the most formidable AI team in the world, removed from the shackles of an awkward non-profit owning a for-profit company? Give enough (cash) incentives and most of OpenAI employees would have no qua…

This whole weekend will probably be a case study in both Corporate Governance (Microsoft may look bad here for not anticipating the problem) and Negotiation (a masterclass by Satya: gave Ilya what he wanted and got most of OpenAI's commercial potential anyway).