EU data regulator bans personalised advertising on Facebook and Instagram

Post by LargoLasskhyfv » Thu, Nov 02, 2023, 9:32 PM UTC

JAlexoid wrote: post #487

ndriscoll wrote: post #210

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Others have addressed the surveillance issue plenty (but in case it's still not clear, if your data is for sale commercially, then your government will buy it), but I think it's important to also stress the insidiousness of repeated mass consumer propaganda, given your toilet bowl cleaner example. Consider Oreo O's: a breakfast "food" with 11.5 g sugar and 1.3 g protein. Allegedly (according to the Wikipedia article)…

You're missing an important point in your example - the reason why high sugar cereals were so successful was because of government interventions (buying up grain supplies, unreasonably propping up certain crops, etc) The utter failures of governments to provide any meaningful guidance, or intentionally boosting certain product consumption. We can have an argument on how effective that propaganda was, but in the end g…

Post by dotancohen » Thu, Nov 02, 2023, 9:47 PM UTC

estel wrote: post #37

leksak wrote: post #5

> Meta has stated that it had already announced plans to provide users in the EU and EEA with an opportunity to provide consent and will introduce a subscription model in November to comply with regulatory requirements This effectively means then that if you are in the EU and you'd want to use either Facebook or Instagram you'd have to pay for a subscription then because they presumably won't offer the free-service w…

From the Independent (and presumably elsewhere): > Meta said it has cooperated with regulators and pointed to its announced plans to give Europeans the opportunity to consent to data collection and, later this month, to offer an ad-free subscription service in Europe that will cost 9.99 euros ($10.59) a month for access to all its products > Tobias Judin, head of the international section at the Norwegian Data Protec…

Post by seydor » Thu, Nov 02, 2023, 9:50 PM UTC

Timon3 wrote: post #692

seydor wrote: post #502

Whenever EU services "ban" facebook, i like to remember that European commission and parliament are among the biggest public spenders of ads on facebook, in most EU countries: https://www.facebook.com/ads/library/report/

You're misrepresenting things quite drastically by leaving out that it's only "ads about social issues, elections or politics", not all ads.

Post by cush » Thu, Nov 02, 2023, 9:56 PM UTC

avarun wrote: post #671

deutschepost wrote: post #44

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Ads are not the discussion. It’s tracking. Some will say that ads hijack your attention and therefore should be blocked by default. This is a different question. But since ad companies wanted to track ROI it became a problem, because it’s pretty easy for them to do that on the internet. That’s why more people are opposed to ads on the internet but not on a busstop. If the busstop ads start taking retina scans to show…

Ads are significantly more useful with tracking. Non-personalized ads are effectively spam and we would be better off without those entirely. Personalized ads can often be as good as the content you're looking for in the first place, if not even better.

Post by alkonaut » Thu, Nov 02, 2023, 10:09 PM UTC

freeone3000 wrote: post #690

alkonaut wrote: post #593

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Are you sure that’s an official difference in N? Thought it was only some bundles like media player, Skype etc that were removed

There’s a separate OOBE where default browser, default media player, and so on must be selected (which was on US SKUs in 10 but removed in 11; it stays in N). One of the screens is asking about telemetry status, and the lowest option is “None”. There is no default selection.