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Re: Google Maps has become an eyesore

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Why ask the owner in the first place. Its public information anyway. Google does not ask either.

Because I'm nice that way.

Sure.

But for mapping lots of POIs this is a PITA and doesnt scale. What if the owner declines? This is non-copyrightable info anyway.

Shall one ask house owners if one can map their address or their house' outline?

Re: Google Maps has become an eyesore

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What do you mean another Inbox situation?

An alternative UX for gmail that Google killed.

how does anti-competition law apply to that kind of situation though? I think anti-competition law would only apply when they bought waze, so while it may be disadvantageous for users if they discontinue it, I don't think there's anything in anti-competition law stopping them from killing waze now that they own it

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I worked on Google Maps monetization, and then on Maps itself. Monetization was a dismal failure. I don't know how well they're doing now, but Maps was a gigantic money-loser, forever. I'd be a little surprised if it didn't still lose money, but maybe less. I don't what those "pin ads" cost, but I'd bet it's way less than a search ad. If you don't believe that, that's fine. "What about indirect revenue?" you ask? Goo…

> What about indirect revenue? Google decision makers must know of its importance as a moat, a data collection pipe, a vehicle for other services and so on. No offense, but trying to squeeze direct revenue out seems kinda laughable. Or maybe even a way to plausibly deny the indirect revenue importance.

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I used to live by Google Maps for several years, until I moved to China. I knew it'd be worse than other options, but I really didn't expect the gap to be so gargantuan. And I also felt like the move exposed a lot more of some of the problems brought up in the article and comments. To be sure I wasn't remembering things wrongly, I just opened it up and confirmed that the points below still stand today. - There are in…

For your first pain point, have you taken into account that China mandates that Google maps deliberately obscure exact locations by being off as much to several hundred meters? If you look at road crossings from Hong Kong to mainland, you'll notice that sometimes the bridges seem to drop straight into the water.

That could be related, yes. But most of the businesses I recognize are placed close to where they actually are/were, however a lot of them are now different businesses. I think it's due to Google being unable to update it because they don't have a presence in the country.

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Is it just me or have you guys also noticed that the routes suggested by Google Maps have gotten worse? It seems that it only takes into account current traffic jams and not the ones which will occur 30mins into the trip. For instance, there's this spot in my city where I know there is a traffic jam at around 3:20 PM every day. I usually set off from home around 2:50 PM, which means I'll hit that congested area by 3:…

I came here to look for someone talking about it and totally agree, Google Maps routes are getting really worse over time and now I switched to Apple Maps almost exclusively. I can understand the jam thing but the weird route thing is crazy, especially because that route often makes you spend more time not less. It prefers weird backroads with lots of turns instead of straight larger roads (and that's stupid) but a t…

I haven't driven in mainland Italy but Google Maps is nearly useless in Sicily. Their road network is designed for itinerary-style navigation which to my knowledge no navigation app has a concept of. Like you said it's foolish to assume that backroads are conveniently navigable as if the only differences are speed limits and number of lanes (and maybe hills for "eco mode").

Re: Google Maps has become an eyesore

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For your first pain point, have you taken into account that China mandates that Google maps deliberately obscure exact locations by being off as much to several hundred meters? If you look at road crossings from Hong Kong to mainland, you'll notice that sometimes the bridges seem to drop straight into the water.

That could be related, yes. But most of the businesses I recognize are placed close to where they actually are/were, however a lot of them are now different businesses. I think it's due to Google being unable to update it because they don't have a presence in the country.

Also a likely explanation, yes.

Re: Google Maps has become an eyesore

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The reason I uninstalled google maps is because it would open in a random place not related to me (I live in Europe and it opens in Tucson,AZ,USA).

AppleMaps is a great map and even better for guiding directions, but their servers are extremely slow so it is very annoying to browse.

Re: Google Maps has become an eyesore

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My wife and I prefer navigating with Apple maps after Google Maps stagnated for years and years. Apple's voice instructions are incomparably better.

what alternate reality is this? Google Maps has never stagnated ever. Tons of new features have been added every year since it was first created. Go read the maps blog posts, watch the google i/o videos, or just search for it and you'll see 10s of thousands of articles listing the new features from each year.

It's our lived reality, not the SWE-centric reality. We don't really want new features, we want the existing features to work better. The voice output on Google Maps is simply bad. It calls out turns when there are other available turns before the one you're supposed to take, and doesn't say anything to disambiguate. It draws which lane to be in for your exit but doesn't call it out. It doesn't say what you need to know for compound instructions (e.g., exit followed closely by fork). You must look at the map to be able to follow the instructions. Apple Maps does these things better and that's why we prefer to use it (with screen mirroring to the car).

And yes, we even like the 3D view. It helps provide context faster than the 2D view, even if it doesn't always render the best information. Every product has room for improvement, and Apple Maps has been improving. Google Maps isn't usefully better now than it was in 2015.

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Just tried it now and I found the experience incredibly easy: On desktop, right click on the map and choose "Add a missing place." On mobile, long-press to drop a pin, then scroll down to "Add a missing place." Does OSM require installing a parallel app store to add a park bench? Sounds like a UX-killer :/

Just tried it on mobile and that is nice and easy, especially if you want to add a business. Not sure how you add a bench that way as I couldn't see the option, but I might be looking in the wrong place. You're right though, installing another app store is a non starter.

Good point -- I'm not sure if Google Maps tracks benches. (I'd guess it doesn't, but not positive.)

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Nvidia is on top of the world right now and companies on the rise often make really stupid long-term customer alienating decisions. Nvidia won't miss any on of as an individual customer at all. For these types of situations, usually at some point the things that were pushing the company upwards slow or stop while the damage from their arrogance accumulates enough to start causing real harm. After some foot dragging a…

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