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Apollo will close down on June 30th

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Re: Apollo will close down on June 30th

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I use "rif is fun golden platinum" because it's simple and fast and I don't have to look at ads. I'll gladly pay Reddit _and_ rif to keep using that combination without ads. I'm certain whatever I pay Reddit to use their API through another app will be worth more to them than any ad revenue they could get from me, because that will be $0.

Also shutting down.

Re: Apollo will close down on June 30th

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post #331
post #297

RIF has now announced they will also be shutting down on June 30th https://www.reddit.com/r/redditisfun/comments/144gmfq/rif_wi...

This is pretty wild. I don't think I've ever seen something like this. I like it. I think Reddit needs to come down to reality.

I honestly don't think it will matter though. I've no data, but I bet Reddit doesn't need this traffic, most people's mums will just use the Reddit app and not care.

Re: Apollo will close down on June 30th

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post #468

Reddit CEO will have AMA tomorrow https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/144ho2x/join_our_ce...

Anyone wanna take bets on if this will take the throne as the new most downvoted thing on reddit?

It’s practically a certainty. I’m going to make some popcorn and watch.

There’s absolutely nothing good that can come out of this for Reddit, unless they’re going to put up some concessions which are enough to get 3rd party devs back to the table.

Re: Apollo will close down on June 30th

#695

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The angle was " buy Apollo from me": > "If third-party apps are costing Reddit so much money, why don't they just buy them out like they did Alien Blue?" That was the point I brought up. If running Apollo as it stands now would cost you $20 million yearly as you quote, I suggested you cut a check to me to end Apollo. I said I'd even do it for half that or six months worth: $10 million, what a deal! And it would have…

How do you think the Apollo users will lose access to Reddit?

The Apollo app makes API calls to their own server, which in turn makes calls to Reddit’s API. From 30 June this proxy server will not function.

Re: Apollo will close down on June 30th

#696

I just don’t see Reddit’s response here other than “yes, turns out we are the bad guys who have been continually lying and manipulating the situation for our benefit”. I wonder if they’ll see employees quit over this. How do you trust your employer after this? I bet some subreddits will go permanently private or delete themselves over this. Just absolutely stunning turn of events, massive kudos to Christian for recor…

> could an employee bring a shareholder lawsuit for negatively impacting financial outlook

Tech employees are somewhat notorious for not enforcing their shareholder rights. Most companies, for example, ignore their books & records requirements under Delaware law, or force private sales to occur at terms favourable to management and the Board’s friends.

Re: Apollo will close down on June 30th

#697

I just don’t see Reddit’s response here other than “yes, turns out we are the bad guys who have been continually lying and manipulating the situation for our benefit”. I wonder if they’ll see employees quit over this. How do you trust your employer after this? I bet some subreddits will go permanently private or delete themselves over this. Just absolutely stunning turn of events, massive kudos to Christian for recor…

> EDIT 2: Is spez (Steve Huffman, CEO and cofounder) going to lose his job over this? Why would he lose his job? Realistically, it's a smart business move to monetise their users. It's Reddit, them being pissy about having to pay is part of the course. There is a reason they're the lowest valued social media users. >EDIT 3: Christian says in the post the refunds will cost him personally about $250,000. Does he have a…

I mean, Tortious interference can apply when a service which could reasonably have been expected to charge reasonable amounts suddenly increases their prices for no reason, if it prevents a third party from being able to fulfill a contract. I have no idea if one of this is one of those cases though, I wouldn't expect so but IANAL.

Re: Apollo will close down on June 30th

#699

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is really astounding to see the CEO of Reddit being caught in a blatant lie denigrating a third party developer whose work has done a lot for the platform and who has the ear of a reasonably sized and loud portion of the community. I really hadn’t expected that. Corporate doublespeak is one thing, and management decisions aren’t necessarily always in the interest of their users - but such an egregious act is reall…

After carefully reading the comments and going back to the post, I take back my argument. It was flawed and did not represent the whole picture. I apologize for that. I think it wasn't a threat, but rather an unsuccessful attempt to sell Apollo before time runs out. I apologize for the confusion I created with my poor argument. I need to read more carefully. --- I initially clicked on this post fully prepared to be o…

He's saying:

"You are claiming that my app is costing you $20M a year in API calls. Just buy it from me for $10M. Then it's yours to shut down if you want, or modify, or whatever you want to do with it."

That's not a threat. At that point it seems like he didn't have any obligation to do anything, and was offering them a mutually beneficial deal. Reddit's cost go down by $20M a year, he gets paid, and everybody (except probably the apollo users) benefits.

Re: Apollo will close down on June 30th

#700
post #673

I am waiting with great anticipation to see how they spin this in the AMA tomorrow. Anything short of Steve editing the posts himself and I will be disappointed /s. To the Reddit and Steve apologists, you will be on the wrong side of history.

Are they doing an AMA tomorrow, and is it just for the mods? I don’t see what they have to gain by doing an AMA, no matter what they say the comments are going to be scathing and people will be sharply looking for anything misspoken to jump on.

It would seem so, but it is hard right now to parse what is fact and what is fiction so definitely look into it yourself. But I totally agree, pretty dim to think they can somehow talk their way out of this. People were upset before, the blackouts, etc. but now this has taken on another tone and I doubt it will cool off by tomorrow. Honestly, I am loving this schadenfreude!
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