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Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by pclmulqdq »

ninjagoo wrote: post #650
cheeseblubber wrote: post #529

Here are some statistics that might help the discussion: "With a crime rate of 54 per one thousand residents, San Francisco has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very largest cities. One's chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime here is one in 18." https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ca/san-francisco/crime#des... A…

So Wikipedia has a list of US Cities, sortable by crime rate, and has separate statistics for violent crime and property crime [1]. This list is based on FBI's data from 2019. By that list, sorted by the total violent crime rate from highest to lowest, SF is 37th on the list of 100 cities, NYC is 59th, Austin is 73rd. In absolute numbers, SF is 715/100k, NYC is 539/100k, Austin is 415/100k. Also, by that list, the to…

NYC in particular suffers from rampant under-reporting on crime stats. Most burglaries and petty property crimes in NYC that I have heard of went completely unreported - either they didn't bother to go into the station, or they went in to make a report and the police basically turned them away. They openly don't care about "small" property crimes, and demonstrate disdain for you if you are coming in to make a police report for anything short of an attempted murder. The alternative that happens in a some communities is vigilante justice.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by silisili »

dxbydt wrote: post #671

Speaking as an immigrant - Worked in SF most of last decade. Left in 2018. Crime was on a steady uptick while I was there. Once in the Bart, a young man grabbed a cellphone from the guy seated right next to me & bolted out of the train. The train started, and the cellphone owner gave chase. The Bart police arrived soon after, with guns pointed straight at the passengers. The robber was fast and jumped over the turnst…

Do you mind if I ask whereabouts you moved to?

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Post by hnburnsy »

Ken Griffin on Citadel leaving Chicago for Miami..."In April, Griffin expanded on the crime issue in an interview with the Wall Street Journal. “If people aren’t safe here, they’re not going to live here,” he said. “I’ve had multiple colleagues mugged at gunpoint. I’ve had a colleague stabbed on the way to work. Countless issues of burglary. I mean, that’s a really difficult backdrop with which to draw talent to your city from.”

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by camdenlock »

notamy wrote: post #289
kodisha wrote: post #267

I am very spoiled by living in one of the European capitals. It's super safe here, and it's normal thing to see young females taking a dog out for a walk in 22-02h. I visit SF at least once a year, and default to my learned habit of walking alone, and later at night. No more.

> It's super safe here, and it's normal thing to see young females taking a dog out for a walk in 22-02h. A small point about language, in case you or anyone else didn't know: In English, it sounds weird to use "female" as a noun to refer to people. If, in that sentence, you would replace "female"/"females" with a word like "man"/"men," then you probably want to be using "woman"/"women" instead of "females." Using "f…

A small point about self-righteousness in case you or anyone else didn’t know: asserting your own beliefs as dogma is often counter-productive in a forum like HN.

Stating that you’ve got information that CLEARLY everyone else needs to be taught; that you’re just trying to be helpful; that nobody should feel pressured to conform “immediately”; all comes off as disingenuous at best and threatening at worst. Instead, try asking questions and engaging in conversation rather than lecturing.

As to the topic at hand: in what way is it dehumanizing to refer to a human as male or female? Being male or female is a fundamental part of being human, not something to be erased or ashamed of. I am a trans woman: a human male who identifies and lives socially as a woman. Should I hide the fact that I’m male? Why?

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by gsibble »

Bob was a good friend, tried to hire me numerous tries at Square, and was my next door neighbor for 3 years. I knew him well and spent a lot of time with him. He will be dearly missed.

I have been told from very well placed sources in the US Intelligence community this is probably a hit.

That being said, I left San Francisco in 2018 because I was worried I would eventually become the random murder that would finally wake up the tech world to what an absolute crime ridden shithole San Francisco is. Don't quote statistics at me. I had numerous police officer friends who told me the statistics are all fake since they purposefully don't report over 50% of the crime in order to keep the city looking halfway decent since so much of it depends upon tourist revenue.

I tried for years to tell my friends the city needed to take the crime problem more seriously and the response I always got was dismissal or that "it's no worse than any other major city."

Well, I live in another major city now and I can tell you with great certainty, SF is much, much, much worse.

And now a good friend is fucking dead.

Fuck San Francisco.

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Post by RC_ITR »

martin_a wrote: post #103

Can someone very briefly wrap this whole "SF is broken"-situation up for somebody from Europe? I only ever read that it's "because of the policies" and there are lots of rather disturbing videos about SF making its rounds on YouTube. But what exactly happened? Did they just remove all the police? Did they gave out free drugs to everybody? I'm not interested in blaming political parties, I just want to get a quick gra…

What happened is as follows:

1) Various US policies have driven up rates of destructive drug use (i.e. it's easier to get truly toxic drugs like Meth and Fent than it is to get lower harm, but equally potent drugs)

2) Various US policies have made life miserable for people who fall victim to that drug use

3) SF has nice weather and is generally more tolerant of people on drugs (California is the capital of working professionals with hard-drug habits)

4) Given the above, if you're down on your luck and drug addicted in the US, SF, Seattle, and LA are the only logical places to live in

5) For political reasons (SF is the home of leading progressives like Nancy Pelosi, Gavin Newsom, Kamala, etc.), there is a well-funded cultural apparatus trying to label SF as a failed state due to its own policies

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Post by emmelaich »

martin_a wrote: post #103

Can someone very briefly wrap this whole "SF is broken"-situation up for somebody from Europe? I only ever read that it's "because of the policies" and there are lots of rather disturbing videos about SF making its rounds on YouTube. But what exactly happened? Did they just remove all the police? Did they gave out free drugs to everybody? I'm not interested in blaming political parties, I just want to get a quick gra…

Perhaps just read the book

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Fransicko

by Michael Shellenberger

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by tayo42 »

martin_a wrote: post #103

Can someone very briefly wrap this whole "SF is broken"-situation up for somebody from Europe? I only ever read that it's "because of the policies" and there are lots of rather disturbing videos about SF making its rounds on YouTube. But what exactly happened? Did they just remove all the police? Did they gave out free drugs to everybody? I'm not interested in blaming political parties, I just want to get a quick gra…

> Can someone very briefly wrap this whole "SF is broken"-situation up for somebody from Europe?

Id be really careful of taking anything people here say seriously. Its a politically divisive topic and the stuff ive seen in the comments are people getting riled up. The right wing loves to hate san francisco, the media loves to hate it too. Please consider there are multiple sides, people are being manipulated by media and outrage

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Post by Eumenes »

kenneth wrote: post #151

I find it shocking that anyone still chooses to live in this broken city. I left >4 years ago and am never coming back. It's unfixable. Let's move the tech industry somewhere that isn't rotten to the core.

Or most cities for that matter. I keep hearing "but culture" and I scratch my head... is culture expensive bars, restaurants, breweries? Yes the museums and art galleries can be cool, but most people see those once every few years. Similar to concerts/live music, its easy to travel into a city a few times per year for an event. Otherwise, they seem far from vibrant. (I've lived in SF, NYC, and LA - and haven't been back since the pandemic).

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Post by skrtskrt »

hnburnsy wrote: post #693

Ken Griffin on Citadel leaving Chicago for Miami..."In April, Griffin expanded on the crime issue in an interview with the Wall Street Journal. “If people aren’t safe here, they’re not going to live here,” he said. “I’ve had multiple colleagues mugged at gunpoint. I’ve had a colleague stabbed on the way to work. Countless issues of burglary. I mean, that’s a really difficult backdrop with which to draw talent to your…

Ken Griffin left Chicago because he wasn't able to get his little conservative candidates to win elections with all the money he was pumping in, and he didn't want to pay Illinois taxes anymore.

Chicago now is probably safer than it ever has been.

He lived in a giant half-block-long mansion a short ride from downtown, and his employees were paid well enough to never touch public transit if they wanted.

It was a transparently BS political play that everyone in Chicago saw through and rightfully ridiculed. Those quotes are designed for people who only know Chicago through right wing media like the Wall Street Journal.

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