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Queen Elizabeth II has died

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Re: Queen Elizabeth II has died

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Post by confidantlake »

dang wrote: post #680
basedgod wrote: post #544

Good riddance. The world is rid of a horrible person who has done horrible things, and who has never once tried to do the right thing in the face of adversity. She could have done so much more, spoken out against so many atrocities, in her own family and Britain's role in the world in general. She could have attempted to use the last vestiges of monarchical power - likely ending the monarchy in the process - and stop…

We've banned this account for posting flamewar comments. That's not allowed here, and you've been doing it repeatedly (e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32574659 ). If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future. They're here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html .

There are countless comments praising her that are allowed to stand. She is a historical figure, there will be people disagreeing. Labeling comments that criticizes her as "flamewar" and banning their accounts isn't enabling curious discussion, it is creating an echo chamber that protects the status quo.

Re: Queen Elizabeth II has died

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Post by _ph_ »

Her watch has ended.

Not being a citizen of the commonwealth, I have no political beef in this, I can only admire her for holding her office for a longer time than most here (including me) have lived. Being the formal head of once a colonial empire turning into a commonwealth with these days most of the member nations rightfully going their own way, she was an important participant in the history of hundreds of millions of people.

Her role was one of constance over a long time in which the world changed a lot. She was a truck driver in WW2 and became queen not too long after that considering she was queen till today. Now an era ends and a new one begins.

Re: Queen Elizabeth II has died

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Post by snambi »

kypro wrote: post #333

As a Brit I'm not a huge fan of the royal family on principle, but Queen Elizabeth has been such an excellent head of state for us you really can't fault her. People like to make out her life was easy and that it's not fair that she inherited such a privileged position, but I think the exact opposite. Her life seemed like living hell to me. Every day for the last 70 years she's had to serve this largely ungrateful co…

Why do you need a queen in 21st century?

Can't the Brits abolish royalty, how they abolished slavery?

Re: Queen Elizabeth II has died

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Post by ploppyploppy »

saberience wrote: post #71

It's weird, I've never considered myself a "royalist" but this news has affected me quite strongly. I just burst into tears unexpectedly on hearing this news and I don't quite understand why I feel so very sad. I guess I have grown up and lived my whole life (as a Brit) seeing and hearing the Queen, singing "God save the Queen" etc, and this news made me suddenly feel very old, very nostalgic, with the sense that all…

I feel similar. I am pro-monarchy but I'm not usually attached in this manner.

Re: Queen Elizabeth II has died

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Post by sdfjkl »

Imagine being groomed to do this job from birth, with no real way to opt out[1]. You wanted to breed horses, become a blacksmith or start a business? Get that nonsense out of your head, you're a princess!

Then, when you're 25, your daddy dies aged only 56 and after a rather brief period of mourning you get pushed into taking his job in a pompous ceremony. Now you're going to be doing this until you die. No retirement! I bet there were times where Lilibet just wanted to go to her room and cry.

I wouldn't have wanted her job for all the wealth and power that came with it.

[1] Well, you could make a big scandal about marrying an American divorcee, but that didn't go down too well for the last guy.

Re: Queen Elizabeth II has died

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Post by bot41 »

I'll need to thread lightly before I get banned by Dang for not loving the british queen!

If we observed monkeys and saw that one was showered with gifts and jewellery their whole lives because they were offspring of two other particular monkeys.. we would chuckle at that. Not for being the strongest, tallest, biggest, smartest or best at something. Just for existing.

Re: Queen Elizabeth II has died

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Post by [deleted] »

braingenious wrote: post #599
dang wrote: post #329

All: please don't post flamebait, including ranting against monarchy or railing against "the nobility" like it's 1770. Such reflexive comments are not on topic here. We want curious conversation. Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html . This story is on topic because it's a major historical event and history has always been on topic here. If it doesn't produce an intellectually curious respons…

> please don't post flamebait, including ranting against monarchy or railing against "the nobility" like it's 1770. I am kind of curious about what this means exactly. Is any criticism of the monarchy off limits? Is the purpose of this thread for people to air their positive thoughts about this lady? For example, I find non-British people that are genuinely sad about her passing to be pretty bizarre. It’s a fascinati…

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Re: Queen Elizabeth II has died

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Post by MrMan »

ralusek wrote: post #313
orobinson wrote: post #248

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel the same. I think it’s because it really represents the end of an era. The 20th and early 21st century ushered in unprecedented improvements to quality of life in Britain but it has felt of late that that has peaked and the country is facing a serious decline: Brexit, the increasingly visible effects of climate change, the aftermath of covid, the possible break up of the union, rising costs of living, recessio…

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the world is a closed system. the illusion of independence is just a lie. Brexit marks the transition of the UK from arguably the most important state in the EU, to a 2nd and then 3rd world country. It is the suicide of a nation due to spite, ignorance, hate, greed, stupidity. Europe needs to be unified. the entire globe needs to be unified. small countries trying to go it alone will be wiped out or impoverished or both.
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