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Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Post by foresto »

roelschroeven wrote: post #79

A problem is that even within the niche of small phones, not everybody has the same wishes. Compared to your ideal specifications, my wishes are: support for microSD card storage; battery that easily and reliably lasts a full day with moderate phone usage; fingerprint sensor, not necessarily on the power button; camera decent, not necessarily great (I don't care that much about low light performance, for example). I'…

> user-friendly reliable method of getting lots of files from my PC to the phone's storage

Have you tried KDE Connect? (Hint: It's not only for KDE desktop users.)

https://kdeconnect.kde.org/

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Post by Pasorrijer »

davee5 wrote: post #270

Hi Eric, I'm a hardware startup guy myself (our paths have crossed) with the distinction that my own "very specific set of skills" has been honed at smartphone megacompanies and smartphone startups. OSOM, Essential, HTC, Samsung, Apple. I've designed and built a lot of phones. I'm building one now. I think this is a noble effort, I personally prefer pocketable phones too, but I think there are nigh-insurmountable hur…

You helped design the HTC EVO 3D!! I loved that phone what a great design.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Post by aimor »

aimor wrote: post #188

I really liked my Xperia XZ2C, until the touch screen started glitching out. I'd love to hear if anyone has a solution for this common problem (touch becomes unresponsive, or goes wild, and is fixed temporarily by locking the screen or squeezing the screen). I'm glad the author mentioned weight, as I think it should be added to the list of requirements. The iPhone6 is 129 g and feels light, the iPhone13 mini is 141 g…

Might be a grounding issue, solved by separating the screen and the battery.

https://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_xz2_compact-reviews-908...

"U must open the case and Put some sticker behind the lcd.ghost touch happen cause have contact between lcd and battery. Grounding issue"

I'm willing to try it.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Post by blangk »

I owned the iPhone 12 mini and thought it was a great phone - I was able to one hand it quite easy and the hardware specs were more than sufficient. My partner now uses it but she would prefer a slightly larger screen I think. I moved to a Pixel 5 and think it is currently one of the best smaller phones - For most stuff I can one hand this phone too, and in some ways the ergonomics of the Pixel are better. For instance the back side finger print scanner unlock is the best I've ever used. I used to want to keep my aux port, but the bluetooth audio industry has really stepped up in recent years - I still just use my airpod pros and probably will continue too

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Post by simondotau »

jdironman wrote: post #511
oceanplexian wrote: post #357

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Big companies are drowning in market data. They know some people really, really want small phones. But it's a long-tail opportunity they're willfully ignoring I would argue that they don’t know what people want at all, since market data just reinforces previously held assumptions. For example if you surveyed people in 2006 what kind of phone they wanted, most consumers would probably ask for a better flip phone. It…

“If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.” - Henry Ford. However, in this day and time when it comes to established tech such as a smart phone, sometimes the best way to 'innovate' might be to give people what they actually want. Sure not all companies can cater all niches. But hopefully someone will! Im also a small phone advocate.

There’s still a market for faster horses.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Post by happymellon »

bscphil wrote: post #594
davee5 wrote: post #270

Hi Eric, I'm a hardware startup guy myself (our paths have crossed) with the distinction that my own "very specific set of skills" has been honed at smartphone megacompanies and smartphone startups. OSOM, Essential, HTC, Samsung, Apple. I've designed and built a lot of phones. I'm building one now. I think this is a noble effort, I personally prefer pocketable phones too, but I think there are nigh-insurmountable hur…

> people who need phones will still buy something even if reluctantly I'll be blunt: no I won't. I reluctantly bought the phone I still use (a moto X4) back in 2019, at which point it was already getting old. It was one of the smaller Android phones available at the time; I measured it diagonally corner to corner (including bezel) at 159 mm (6.26 inches). The screen size is 130 mm (5.2 in) according to Wikipedia. Thi…

I had the same situation with the S10e. I don't know how it compares to the Moto X4, but with the increased sized phones I have no interest in a new Android.

I only got this one because I couldn't find one smaller.

At the current rate I would have to move to iPhone just to stay a similar size.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Post by Tijdreiziger »

bscphil wrote: post #665
Tijdreiziger wrote: post #642

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> a phone the size of the Nexus 5X or preferably smaller ...so, a current flagship? Samsung's Galaxy S22 is smaller than both the Moto X4 and Nexus 5X. Size comparison: https://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Google-Nexus-5X,Motor... In general, phone sizes have stayed roughly constant since the Nexus 5X, though the displays are getting bigger as the bezels get smaller.

Aha, you got me. I really should have specified that Nexus 5X was also too big. Moreover, the specification that actually matters for one-handed phone users is the distance between the bottom corner of the phone (where it's held in the hand) and the top opposite corner of the screen , not the top corner of the phone. That's because that point is the furthest you'd ever need to stretch your thumb to use the phone. So…

I actually used to be worried about the exact points you're making, as I used an iPhone 4 for years (which is tiny by today's standards).

However, in practice 'not being able to reach the whole screen with my thumb' hasn't turned out to be a big problem: navigation elements at the top of the screen tend to be less-used (as app devs also take into account that it's a hassle to reach them). If I really need to use them one-handed, I can always 'scoot' my hand up a bit. (I can see how this is harder if you have smaller hands, though.)

A larger screen also actually turns out to be quite nice, as more content fits on it (I'm actually writing this comment on my phone).

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Post by Gigachad »

d00k wrote: post #104
bloqs wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every female member of my family has complained about devices being too big. Its clearly based on anecdotal evidence. People with smaller hands want to be able to operate the phone fully with one hand.

Don't see the same with my family, girlfriend has a 13 Pro Max, mum and sister have the 11 Pro Max.

From what I have seen. The average person would rather two hand their phone than have a smaller one.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Post by madeofpalk »

oceanplexian wrote: post #357
davee5 wrote: post #270

Hi Eric, I'm a hardware startup guy myself (our paths have crossed) with the distinction that my own "very specific set of skills" has been honed at smartphone megacompanies and smartphone startups. OSOM, Essential, HTC, Samsung, Apple. I've designed and built a lot of phones. I'm building one now. I think this is a noble effort, I personally prefer pocketable phones too, but I think there are nigh-insurmountable hur…

> Big companies are drowning in market data. They know some people really, really want small phones. But it's a long-tail opportunity they're willfully ignoring I would argue that they don’t know what people want at all, since market data just reinforces previously held assumptions. For example if you surveyed people in 2006 what kind of phone they wanted, most consumers would probably ask for a better flip phone. It…

"They" say that people just don't by the smaller iPhone. People always go for the larger + cheaper thing.

Apple has weird economics where I'm sure they profit handsomely from iPhone Mini, but they tend to get rid of things if they don't make $10b annually.

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