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Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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Re: Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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Post by eldaisfish »

carlgreene wrote: post #649

Teens are being told the world is terrible by pessimists when there truly hasn’t been a better time to be alive. How do you expect them to feel? This is amplified on social media and shown with "proof" from all corners of the world. We've evolved from a place where hearing about bad news from the tribe was an advantage. It allowed us to adjust our life to take into account risks _seen_ by other folks in the tribe. On…

this ignores the harsh realities for life as a young person in the west.

Sure, they are not scrounging for food nor is there widespread famine but politics is increasingly polarised. There is a climate problem looming and the youngest will deal with it, western citizens or otherwise.

Economies are tanking, job markets are topsy turvy not to mention the real estate problem in a lot of western countries.

These problems, while not as dire as the problems faced by those in the developing world, are still problems. You cannot hand-wave this away by comparing one's lot in life to that of a person with no limbs. That is unfairly reductive.

The challenge, as you point out, is how to deal with this information and that is where i feel modern society has failed.

Re: Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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Post by standardUser »

zeroonetwothree wrote: post #680
standardUser wrote: post #679

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Boomers wrecked the world and young people know they need to fix it. Sorry it can't just all be sunshine and roses like you prefer, but women in this country are about to lose a fundamental human right, so maybe "looking on the bright side" is not the appropriate disposition for these times.

Well maybe only 50% of women

At least until the next case hits SCOTUS. With a far-right majority like that, anything is possible.

Re: Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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Post by s1artibartfast »

mnsc wrote: post #561
seydor wrote: post #522

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yes that s a good example. "being proud to be black" is diverse, being proud to be white is not. There is definitely a level of doublespeak here, although i'm not sure if teens are really annoyed by it

When someone expresses black pride my interpretation is that they are reclaiming, trying to manifest and celebrate that they no longer live in times where being born black meant that you were a second hand citizen and that you should/could feel no pride. When someone express white pride I can't interpret it the same way because there hasn't been a time where the structures were so that being born white made you infer…

It comes down to interpretation. Droping the word pride, the idea is that you can love yourself and be comfortable in the skin you are born with, and see value in your family culture and history.

We should teach this to all children and encourage them to feel this way. We should not teach some children that they are inferior or carry the the guilt for crimes committed by others just because they share the same skin color.

Re: Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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Post by anton96 »

api wrote: post #501
indymike wrote: post #481

Unpopular opinion: Social media is a great scapegoat, but it is not the source of the problem. It is where they go to communicate and cope. My sole qualification to post this: I have four kids that are either teens or in their early 20s, and one who will be a teen next year. Here is what I see out there: 1. Kids have little or no slack in their schedule. This means very little freedom, and very little time to work th…

I'll add one more that IMHO is huge: Youth culture seems dead. I remember being a teen and early-20 in the 90s-2000s and there were things like a hippie festival circuit, raves, goth culture, club culture, and so on. I keep hoping I'm just old and don't see it, but I remember back then it would seep out and get covered by the media and get chatted about on the nascent Internet. I see nothing like it today. Sure there…

> Youth culture seems dead.

I feel this is very true, I'm still in my twenties. When I was a little bit than ten, I remember that things like "teenage rebellion" and unbearable young people were still a thing.

I feel like a certain stereotype of the teenager of the 90's has completely disappeared.

Being a teenager a few decade ago was all the rage, even in self identification, I feel now people just go through 10 to 20 progressively, with maybe their set of problems but nothing as typical.... like I did. In fact I think I just saw it died when arrived in this age.

Re: Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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Post by alt227 »

navjack27 wrote: post #597
chimen wrote: post #465

Ofc it is plummeting. We are letting them install apps that have people behind them with the sole job of making them more addictive. We are handing them drugs, multiple variants if I may say so. I had to fight with my daughter for TikTok and whatnot, she is only allowed with YouTube due to school/tutorials/classes etc and I still find myself pretty often having to snap her out of shorts and other bs with an algorithm…

How the heck is your daughter not on the mode of YouTube where it doesn't switch to whatever is recommended next and how come she isn't taught not to watch shorts? I don't have kids and I don't want kids but like is it really hard to completely enforce some sort of a online media literacy?

IMO If you dont have kids, you do not have the knowledge to comment on how to raise them. No matter how many kids or families you have known or seen, having your own is a completely different world.

Re: Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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Post by indymike »

formerkrogemp wrote: post #605
indymike wrote: post #481

Unpopular opinion: Social media is a great scapegoat, but it is not the source of the problem. It is where they go to communicate and cope. My sole qualification to post this: I have four kids that are either teens or in their early 20s, and one who will be a teen next year. Here is what I see out there: 1. Kids have little or no slack in their schedule. This means very little freedom, and very little time to work th…

> Unpopular opinion: Social media is a great scapegoat, but it is not the source of the problem. People whose livelihood depends on social media don't want the culpability of their company's work. C'est le monde.

I don't work for a social media company. I do see my kids using social media with other kids to communicate and cope.

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Post by xeromal »

mattacular wrote: post #635
gilbetron wrote: post #584

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an example from my son, a 13 year old white kid, gave me is that if you have one of the "diversity cards" (minority, LGBQT+, female sometimes, or some other thing) than you get to joke and talk in a way than those that don't have such a card. So his friends that are gay or black or indian or disabled are able to tease each other about it and have more liberty to use terms that my son is not allowed to. The gay kid…

Your white son is at the bottom of the pack because he can't openly tell bigoted jokes about his peers?

I don't understand this intentional misreading of comments that's so pervasive. Even if they're not entirely clear, you can usually deduce what they mean.

Why is his son singled out based on his skin color and unable to do things that his peers are officially sanctioned by the school? Not sure what that sounds ok to you? That seems like regular ole racism to me. That's a bit insane don't you think?

Re: Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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Post by basisword »

standardUser wrote: post #679
carlgreene wrote: post #649

Teens are being told the world is terrible by pessimists when there truly hasn’t been a better time to be alive. How do you expect them to feel? This is amplified on social media and shown with "proof" from all corners of the world. We've evolved from a place where hearing about bad news from the tribe was an advantage. It allowed us to adjust our life to take into account risks _seen_ by other folks in the tribe. On…

Boomers wrecked the world and young people know they need to fix it. Sorry it can't just all be sunshine and roses like you prefer, but women in this country are about to lose a fundamental human right, so maybe "looking on the bright side" is not the appropriate disposition for these times.

>> Boomers wrecked the world and young people know they need to fix it.

This is the exact kind of BS the parent comment is referring too. The world is full of problems but it’s never been better for most people in most ways.

Re: Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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Post by evocatus »

gilbetron wrote: post #584
radarsat1 wrote: post #502

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Diversity is good, but being ____ is bad. Can you fill in the blank? I actually have no idea what you are referring to here.

As an example from my son, a 13 year old white kid, gave me is that if you have one of the "diversity cards" (minority, LGBQT+, female sometimes, or some other thing) than you get to joke and talk in a way than those that don't have such a card. So his friends that are gay or black or indian or disabled are able to tease each other about it and have more liberty to use terms that my son is not allowed to. The gay kid…

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Re: Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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Post by engineeringwoke »

balfirevic wrote: post #539
mschuster91 wrote: post #516

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There are a lot of decisive action ideas to combat climate change (and a host of other issues). Right now out of the top of my head: - impose a maximum limit on size, weight and fuel consumption of cars, ban SUVs and pickup trucks (and no, a tax won't work because the rich will simply buy their "freedom"). Exceptions only upon proof of need (e.g. commercial or farming usage). - ban all inner-country flights of less t…

> and no, a tax won't work because the rich will simply buy their "freedom If the tax is enough to cover CO2 sequestration, where is the problem? > entirely ban naval cruise ships unless fueled by renewable fuel Why not the same exemption for sub 2-hour flights?

> If the tax is enough to cover CO2 sequestration, where is the problem?

Because the technology doesn't yet exist. You are banking your children's future on a technology that may never come to pass.

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