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Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by TheSpiceIsLife »

shireboy wrote: post #666
Zelphyr wrote: post #533

For the first time ever I feel like I just wasted my time watching an Apple product announcement. I'm not saying those products are bad or are poorly engineered or anything like that. I'm just saying the products they showed off today aren't anything I would want. I have an iPhone 7 Plus and comparing it to the iPhone 11 versions I don't see anything in the latter that I'd upgrade for. The best I could come up with w…

I sort of feel like this, but chalk it up to me getting old and curmudgeonly. You kids with your fancy three cameras and gamey movie thingy, get off my lawn. Back in my day we had a phone with a browser and email and Netflix and were happy about it.

I browsed the responses to the parent comment looking to see if anyone had presented this angle.

The first iPhone at "everyone had"[1] came out a little over 11 years ago.

I'd hazard a guess most people who were in their ~mid 20's back in 2008 is now in their ~mid 30's, and have probably lost a lot interest in "new and shiny thing".

I'm swiftly approaching 40, and what gets me excited has changed dramatically in the past decade.

We'll see how long the line up is on release day, that'll give as an indicator of how out of touch us old folk are.

1. iPhone 3G available in 22 countries for as compared the original iPhone available in only 7 countries, according to the Wikipedia articles for each

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by jrobn »

pubutil wrote: post #676
beowulfey wrote: post #657

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The thing I was 100% hoping for but did not expect at all was a new haptic feedback engine. I think the next big thing Apple could improve would be localized feedback. I want to be able to feel a button when I drag a finger across the screen, for example. There were zero rumors of this, it was just wishful thinking, but man if I didn't dream...

That’d be really cool to have, especially on a haptic keyboard! Unfortunately Apple seems averse to the idea of haptic feedback on a keyboard. On a similar note, I’ve been disappointed in the removal of 3D Touch. I understand that it adds complexity to the display layer, but replacing 3D Touch with long-presses doesn’t really cut it for me

3D Touch was a horrible interface mechanism.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by rolltiide »

Zelphyr wrote: post #533

For the first time ever I feel like I just wasted my time watching an Apple product announcement. I'm not saying those products are bad or are poorly engineered or anything like that. I'm just saying the products they showed off today aren't anything I would want. I have an iPhone 7 Plus and comparing it to the iPhone 11 versions I don't see anything in the latter that I'd upgrade for. The best I could come up with w…

Woo Dual-Sim!

Now I can have my other number without worrying about green bubbles. Instant clout. I'll pay for that: the device and additional number monthly.

Goodbye Google Voice/Skype numbers! Well I'll keep gvoice for a third number for shenanigans, like craigslist replies

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Post by arvinsim »

jonknee wrote: post #134
gnicholas wrote: post #116

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> About half of the people I help choose phones would be fine with 64 GB. There’s no point making them buy a bunch of flash memory they will never use just to get the better still camera that they want. But would you be counseling these people to get the iPhone Pro in the first place? I would guess that most folks who want the Pro would want more than 64 GB.

iCloud storage makes it fairly easy to not keep everything you've ever recorded on your phone, it really depends on the user. Back when you kept all your music and all your photos/video it was more critical to have a ton of storage locally. Most people buying the expensive model will probably opt for more storage, but for those that don't need it I don't see a problem with offering a lower tier.

iCloud storage will not help people while they are recording 4k 60FPS.

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Post by m3kw9 »

Zelphyr wrote: post #533

For the first time ever I feel like I just wasted my time watching an Apple product announcement. I'm not saying those products are bad or are poorly engineered or anything like that. I'm just saying the products they showed off today aren't anything I would want. I have an iPhone 7 Plus and comparing it to the iPhone 11 versions I don't see anything in the latter that I'd upgrade for. The best I could come up with w…

You are probably an outlier in the smart phone or smart watch business

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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summerlight wrote: post #429

Lots of people disappointed in the new iPhone. The reason I see is simple; Apple has long been outsourced a large fraction of its hardware innovation capabilities to other companies rather than having a full vertical ownership of the production line, unlike its competitors (Samsung, Huawei, etc). This works very well when most of the required technologies are already there for bringing their idea to the reality so Ap…

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Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by luxuryballs »

neogodless wrote: post #170

It's been clear for quite some time that terms like "Extreme", "Pro" and "Max" are marketing terms. They are not accurate classifications of how they will be used. If people feel strongly enough that the name is not accurate, they will have to buy a competing product that fulfills their needs at the price they are willing to pay. I suppose what would be interesting, but highly proprietary, would be Apple's marketing…

Real estate agents, industrial photographers, people who make money affiliate marketing, maintaining a (whatever) review channel on YouTube, journalists, heck even sales or running a small business, lots of professional use cases. The difference between good and great is the little things.

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Post by arvinsim »

toasterlovin wrote: post #300
zherbert wrote: post #51

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Wholeheartedly agree, especially when demoing the ability to film simultaneously on multiple cameras, and the 4K front-facing camera. The 64 GB is really a slap in the face.

Most buyers of these phones will not film simultaneously on multiple cameras. 64GB is for them. If you're going to use that particular feature, you're buying the largest capacity phone you can.

> Most buyers of these phones will not film simultaneously on multiple cameras.

They why buy the Pro? Why not just get the normal 11?

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Post by luxuryballs »

ineedasername wrote: post #520
neogodless wrote: post #170

It's been clear for quite some time that terms like "Extreme", "Pro" and "Max" are marketing terms. They are not accurate classifications of how they will be used. If people feel strongly enough that the name is not accurate, they will have to buy a competing product that fulfills their needs at the price they are willing to pay. I suppose what would be interesting, but highly proprietary, would be Apple's marketing…

Honestly I never really understood the need to chase the newest flagship given the premium price. I probably upgrade about once a year to 18 months, and purchasing the prior model flagship saves me about 60% to 70%. I upgraded to the pixel 2xl shortly after the 3 came out for about $260. Even being able to afford it I just feel I'm getting ripped off at $1000.

If it was a need they would probably not be able to charge so much.

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Post by woutr_be »

naikrovek wrote: post #673
woutr_be wrote: post #665

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Besides just incremental changes, what could people possibly expect from the next version of a smartphone, especially with the technology that we currently have? I get that 5-10 years ago it was a totally different field, when technology wasn't matured, and everything they announced was something groundbreaking. But now, besides from the yearly camera and chip improvements, I honestly can't think of anything I would…

When feature phones were mature, people said the exact same thing. "This has everything I want." That is when market opportunities appear in front of those with good ideas.

Correct, and if you understand that, that's fine. I'm also waiting for the next thing after smartphones, but until then, I'm not really expecting anything other that incremental updates.
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