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Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by FabHK »

FabHK wrote: post #559
liability wrote: post #452

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There were hints of it even back in the Apple II and Apple III era, both of which released with inadaquate cooling.

Interesting point. However, there was also the famous Steve quote where he was adamant that design is about function, and not about how pretty it looks.

Found it:

> “Most people make the mistake of thinking design is what it looks like. People think it’s this veneer – that the designers are handed this box and told, ‘Make it look good!’ That’s not what we think design is. It’s not just what it looks like and feels like. Design is how it works.”

– Steve Jobs

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by daslicious »

docker_up wrote: post #176
endymi0n wrote: post #111

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I can only come to the same conclusion. Typing this on a 2018 MacBook 15 inch, and it's a disaster. I still keep accidentally hitting the Touchbar ten times per day while typing (it's not a press-bar, duh), I need a dongle for _everything and their mother_, battery lifetime isn't good, the keyboard is prone to mistyping and double clicks, the screen doesn't get bright enough sometimes, I can't get any higher spec har…

I recently was forced to upgrade by 2015 laptop at work because the battery life was finally short enough that I couldn't stand it. I hate dongles. The 2015 Macbook will stand as their last best laptop. Nothing about the 2018 laptop is better, it's only worse. I don't understand why they don't see this. There should really be a huge multi-billion dollar class action lawsuit for their keyboards and fixability to wake…

I got my 2015 mpb battery replaced. I'm back to smooth sailing. Always plugged in so it'll last as long as possible.

It had bad battery bloat but when I got it back from apple care everything looked new.

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Post by pfranz »

bdamm wrote: post #153
TimTheTinker wrote: post #89

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I actually really like the touch bar. I'd enjoy my 2016 MBP if it wasn't for the 2 keys that are now unreliable on the keyboard. That and the fact that it crashes every time the battery runs out.

I like the touch bar too. I just want the Esc key back (although they did add the option to remap CapsLock to Esc, so hurray for that, but honestly it was a delayed feature.)

CapsLock to Esc is a new feature? I've had control mapped to CapsLock for years...which is one reason I'm actively avoiding the TouchBar.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by rz2k »

rz2k wrote: post #394
cletus wrote: post #125

What a clusterF is modern Mac hardware: - Keyboards with much worse action that are more prone to failure (from dust no less) and require replacing the motherboard to fix... all for a Touchbar no one wants and 0.5mm cut in thickness. - Loss (over the years) of the ability to upgrade the CPU, SSD or memory; - Display failures due to broken ribbon cables; - The USB-C clusterF; and - Loss of MagSafe (this one still hurt…

I have a 2016 MacBook Pro, and "luckily" the anti-glare coating failed. There is a free repair program for the screen appearing stained, and replacing the display panel replaced the integrated display ribbon cable that had also failed. I don't think dust is the cause of all the keyboard failures. I had been using it as a desktop computer for over a year. It isn't in a dusty room, and the computer still spends months…

Followup for anyone reading the above with a dark screen/flex cable problem in a 2016 MacBook Pro: today, Apple announced that they will now cover this problem up to four years after the original purchase date.

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Post by torstenvl »

pfranz wrote: post #693
bdamm wrote: post #153

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I like the touch bar too. I just want the Esc key back (although they did add the option to remap CapsLock to Esc, so hurray for that, but honestly it was a delayed feature.)

CapsLock to Esc is a new feature? I've had control mapped to CapsLock for years...which is one reason I'm actively avoiding the TouchBar.

I have the Caps Lock key mapped to Control (for Unixy things, especially Emacs), and the Control key mapped to Escape -- which, incidentally, improves locality of the Force Quit key combination.

I never use Caps Lock anyway.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Post by bluedino »

zrail wrote: post #522
TomVDB wrote: post #306

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Replace the battery. I did it last year on my 2012 rMBpro after it have been complaining about servicing the battery for about a year, and while it wasn't a walk in the park, it all worked out great. Tip: there are 2 ways to replace the battery. One is by following the official iFixit etc instructions where you remove absolutely everything before you peel off the battery with acetone. The other is by immediately peel…

Or just take it to the Apple Store and pay them $199 to repair the battery which also gets you an entirely new top case and keyboard (old, original stock)

Not an option if you have a 2012 rMBP

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Post by burtonator »

ordinaryradical wrote: post #99
mtmail wrote: post #5

https://techcrunch.com/2019/05/21/apple-announces-new-macboo... "Today, however, [Apple] told me that they’re taking three explicit steps to help with the keyboard situation. 1. The MacBook Pro keyboard mechanism has had a materials change in the mechanism. [...]"

This is the real announcement, to be honest. 8 cores is a convenient smokescreen, and they clearly don't want to talk about how borked their product is at WWDC so they are dropping the keyboard update with this news like it's a detail when it's actually the real story. These shitty keyboards cast a shadow over the whole product line. If they didn't fix it the third time around, it's time to abandon the damn mechanism…

They didn't fix it.. it still has the god damn touch bar.

It's like they're trying to be as stupid as possible.

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Post by mrep »

goshx wrote: post #397
mrep wrote: post #199

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I got a maxed out late 2013 MBP and I too am going to hold onto it as long as possible. 4 core i7, 16gb of ram, discrete gpu and it still runs like a champ. The only problem I had was that the battery recently swelled up which caused problems with the touchpad and fans, but apple ended up replacing the battery, keypad, touchpad, and casing for $300 which wasn't too bad considering ifixit wanted like $1,000 bucks for…

Mine is the early 2013 maxed out and also runs like a champ. The battery is going bad, so I'm glad you posted how much you paid for it. I'm really not looking forward to an upgrade.

If the battery starts to swell, get it replaced and see what Apple quotes you. I delayed it (thought the fan noise was because of dust so i tried opening it up and shooting compressed air at it and that did not work but I did notice how hard it was to close it back up) until it caused the fan to non-stop whining at an unbearable rate.

Took it in for an official check up to double-check it as i was thinking about ordering fan parts to repair it myself. They said the battery looked to be swelling which they thought was causing the insane fan noise and quoted me $200 for the battery replacement. I thought I could buy the battery cheaper but grudgingly accepted as they said it would cover all the repairs with that fee. They shipped it to a repair center and then upped the fees by $100 for labor. I again grungendly accepted it as I just wanted it fixed, I could mess up the personal repair, and having them do it saves me time.

After getting the laptop back that looked brand new with all the replacements, I remembered why I love Apple. I'm just surprised they didn't tell me all the parts they were going to replace for the $300 as that would have sold me instantly especially considering my trackpad had been half broken but I did not associate it with the swelling battery at the time.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by burtonator »

no1youknowz wrote: post #26

As someone who is desperately wanting to upgrade from a mid-2012. I say big deal. No better display like oled. Looks like the same keyboard to me. Oh the material has changed? Who cares, it's the same failing mechanism. More CPU eh? Means it'll just get hotter much quicker and there will be more throttling to be fixed via software. At this rate, for Apple to get my $$$ again they'll have to release a 16" [oled] macbo…

Tim Cook has got to go.. he's pathetic.
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