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Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Post by jonmccull » Thu, Jun 21, 2018, 7:58 PM UTC

chrisper wrote: post #420

teel wrote: post #397

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It's been there at least 6 months already. I think I started using it around the time it was added. According to my password safe, I put the sync name/password in there on 1st of December last year. EDIT: I want to add that I run the Snapshot versions of Vivaldi (currently 1.16.1211.3), and it could be that the Sync was introduced only in a Snapshot in December. So I have no idea if the sync can be found in the Stabl…

is the snapshot version usable? I might give it another try then :)

i use the snapshot version as my default on mac and it's definitely usable (and then some). you do run into the odd bugginess, but anything major is usually fixed within a few days.

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Post by FrostAlot » Thu, Jun 21, 2018, 7:59 PM UTC

zargon wrote: post #635

afranchuk wrote: post #609

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That's been my experience/preference as well. In fact I have been very taken aback by all the "Firefox is back" and "time to try Firefox again" headlines. I guess I didn't realize what sort of exodus occurred when chrome came out. But honestly, I never ran into performance issues with Firefox over the years and various versions, including the overhaul with Firefox 3. I typically have 2-8 tabs open (hasn't changed muc…

I typically have 25-250 tabs open at a time, and also never left Firefox. Though maybe this is the other end of the spectrum because managing this number of tabs in Chrome is impossible.

I have the same browsing habit. How to you manage tabs on FF?

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Post by jonmccull » Thu, Jun 21, 2018, 7:59 PM UTC

chrisper wrote: post #346

teel wrote: post #340

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Vivaldi does have a sync feature! But I don't know if you're aware of that already, and FF/Chrome sync have something special in their Sync that Vivaldi doesn't.

Was it added recently?

Sync has been live in the snapshot version for quite some time. it's planned to be released to the stable version in Vivaldi's next major update.

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Post by phobosdeimos » Thu, Jun 21, 2018, 8:42 PM UTC

radmuzom wrote: post #467

Most of the comments here are about using or not using Firefox, depending on it's features as compared to primarily Chrome. However, for me, it is not about being better or having more features at all - it is because I like Firefox and want to support Mozilla and believe that Google should not control the web. It is somewhat similar to the free software vs. open source debate - one should use free software not becaus…

To be fair the industry is LITERALLY developing for Chrome and Safari first.

Google won. Everything people hated MS for in the 90s Google has actually accomplished. Resistance is futile.

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Post by imagetic » Thu, Jun 21, 2018, 8:59 PM UTC

The only thing Firefox feels behind on is video, at least that I notice in day to day operation. Chrome runs much more efficiently. When using Firefox my laptops fans spin up, battery life takes a hit, and it's overall more sluggish.

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Post by diaz » Thu, Jun 21, 2018, 9:40 PM UTC

afranchuk wrote: post #609

radmuzom wrote: post #467

Most of the comments here are about using or not using Firefox, depending on it's features as compared to primarily Chrome. However, for me, it is not about being better or having more features at all - it is because I like Firefox and want to support Mozilla and believe that Google should not control the web. It is somewhat similar to the free software vs. open source debate - one should use free software not becaus…

That's been my experience/preference as well. In fact I have been very taken aback by all the "Firefox is back" and "time to try Firefox again" headlines. I guess I didn't realize what sort of exodus occurred when chrome came out. But honestly, I never ran into performance issues with Firefox over the years and various versions, including the overhaul with Firefox 3. I typically have 2-8 tabs open (hasn't changed muc…

That's also been my experience for long years and 99% on firefox. I could never actually get over the fact you can't close all the tabs without it forcing the closing of the window that happens on chrome. Many other paper cuts exist in browsers not firefox that make it really hard to switch. Anyway almost all the time I see someone saying firefox is bad they are usually using Mac. So I blame Firefox on mac being the problem, not firefox itself.

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Post by atVelocet » Thu, Jun 21, 2018, 9:45 PM UTC

chupasaurus wrote: post #687

atVelocet wrote: post #611

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Or better use one of these: https://chromium.woolyss.com/ https://download-chromium.appspot.com/

These are not the official repos and they can contain some malicious code.

Just like any extension you are using.

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Post by chupasaurus » Thu, Jun 21, 2018, 9:53 PM UTC

atVelocet wrote: post #697

chupasaurus wrote: post #687

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These are not the official repos and they can contain some malicious code.

Just like any extension you are using.

You can uninstall or block extension, you can't uncompile RCE or trojan or whatever.

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Post by CamperBob2 » Thu, Jun 21, 2018, 10:26 PM UTC

manfredo wrote: post #440

CamperBob2 wrote: post #328

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In most jobs, there are plenty of ways to get fired even if you haven't broken any laws. This was just one of those ways, for one of those employees, at one of those jobs. At-will employment goes both ways.

Sure, it's legal. What we're discussing is what justification there is to make it socially acceptable to fire or tell people to resign based on political views.

(Shrug) It's acceptable to me and to a bunch of other people, so that by definition makes it "socially acceptable." I reserve the right not to employ Nazi asshats, or to work for them. That's the upside to at-will employment... and the downside of being a Nazi asshat.

In most states, political beliefs do not, and should not, qualify employees for membership in protected classes. Under California law the situation is murkier, but most conservatives like Eich would agree with that sentiment, I'd hope. But then, the definitions of traditional terms like "conservative" are becoming hard to keep up with nowadays.

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Post by penglish1 » Thu, Jun 21, 2018, 10:53 PM UTC

penglish1 wrote: post #670

Firefox is indeed, much faster and less memory intensive than it used to be. I started using it heavily (again) roughly when Quantum came out after giving up on it for years as unusable. (like many, I think - hence the article). However. I still find it very crash-prone. Less so over time, since Quantum came out, but still.. very crash-prone. Perhaps I use it differently from others? I use different Profiles to separ…

I meant to add - Chrome has maybe crashed on me a couple of times in that same year (versus one or more crashes per day from FF!), despite arguably much much heavier use, including all of my Youtube, social networking with infinity scroll etc.