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Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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I would never say Github is superior to Bitbucket. I haven't checked if they have changed the rules, but on the startup I was working on, Bitbucket provided superior value by far. They allowed free private repos for teams of up to 5 users. After 6 months we ended up paying for the basic plan to accomodate about 10 users. I am mostly used to command line Git during my daily routine, but the designer/manager was happil…

You seem to be comparing Github to Bitbucket based solely on price. In which case Bitbucket is the easy winner. To my mind, the UX of Github makes it worth the extra expense.

> the UX of Github makes it worth the extra expense.

Github UX is weird. It looks nice, and there's lots of nice functionality. But it often takes lots of rummaging to find the things I need, unless I do them every week. Bitbucket and Gitlab seem to be laid out better. Github is the only site I use regularly where I need to refer to notes.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Really? I'm pretty happy with it. Definitely better than Github desktop, and more full featured than the light git extensions you find in most editors. What Git GUI do you prefer?

Gitup for the Mac http://gitup.co Definitely my favourite client, and OSS to boot. I can't really think of much I'd want changed to improve it.

Gitup.co is nice

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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This makes sense. Atlassian is good at making money from its services and it is increasing its overall ecosystem here. Github moves really slow in comparison. I guess Github is more focused, but there are a lot of contrasts between Github and Atlassian, and in terms of making money I think Atlassian is doing a lot better. Has Github acquired anything significant? Github should have acquired Zenhub (which is Trello in…

It makes sense for them to increase their overall ecosystem with Slack's growth looming.

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The only major bug I've experienced in Tower v2 is related to renaming repos. That part's very broken, but besides that it's been great for me.

Staging, unstaging, and discarding line-by-line has been extremely flaky for me in v1 and v2. Often discarding a deleted line will insert the line in a completely unrelated part of the file, so instead of a deletion, you now have a deletion and an addition. And so on. In combination with GitUp, it's still a great tool, but it could need better QA so that even edge cases are solid.

This is different than my experience of Tower and Tower 2.

I frequently pick through dozens of lines of code for a granular commit history, sometimes backing up a commit, saving a commit as a patch, (then) amending some lines to a previous commit, staging/unstaging non-consecutive additions and deletions, etc. and I've not experienced problems.

Renaming repos is straightforward but doing so does not rename the directory in the filesystem. It only renames it in the Tower UI.

To rename the repo root directory, one should copy the origin root directory naming it to the new name and then run

  git init --bare name_of_directory
to create a new repo.

The only trouble I've experienced is deleting branches and tags from Github. Not sure if it's Github or Tower, but deleting those items and then recreating them often yields an error that the item still exists.

(In my defense, the process established at work requires a deploy of a tag to STG once every 2 weeks, but the tag must be deployed to STG every week, leading to a situation where the STG tag must be deleted and recreated. Come to think of it, I'm going to suggest we change our process.)

I'm not affiliated with Tower except as a satisfied user.

EDIT: grammar, formatting, readability.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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This makes sense. Atlassian is good at making money from its services and it is increasing its overall ecosystem here. Github moves really slow in comparison. I guess Github is more focused, but there are a lot of contrasts between Github and Atlassian, and in terms of making money I think Atlassian is doing a lot better. Has Github acquired anything significant? Github should have acquired Zenhub (which is Trello in…

I find it amusing that someone thinks Github moves slow in comparison to Atlassian.

I feel like about 30% of all Github features have been released since the last major point release of Jira and Confluence, which themselves were buggy, poorly tested, crud as well.

How does Atlassian move "fast"? Has Atlassian done.... anything worth noting in the past 3 years?

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Personally, I hate it because it is too functional. It has eight zillion features, all of them overlapping. It has so many fields, dimensions, views, and reports that I despair of ever getting a setup that usefully matches an actual workflow. The point of a work tracking system is to bring everybody together, but I regularly see people dealing with Jira by having their own separate tracking methods: docs, emails, spr…

This is probably why I like JIRA better than you do, other people at my company configured everything, I just have to use it.

I think this works only if your process is standardized across your company. Which I think is generally a terrible mistake in software, because a) team needs can differ, and b) you can't improve process unless the whole company changes at once.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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They will JIRA-fy it or kill it. I use JIRA and pay for it, it is hell on earth for teams of 2-5. We looked into switching to trello to reduce overhead but... It cost more for less features. So we stayed with JIRA. They will kill trello so everyone is stuck with JIRA. Someone please make a trello clone with reasonable pricing, now!

Trello was ridiculously cheap. I think you're totally out of luck if you expect anybody to make a clone that's cheaper.

Yeah but if my team has lots of inactive users that starts to add up.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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His company is Stack Overflow, not Trello, so he probably doesn't have much to say.

Have a look at the history please. Trello came out of a company Joel created.

I started working at Fog Creek Software in 2006. Joel hasn't worked for Trello since 2014.
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