All Archive pages, when accessed from Italy, now are blocked by the Government: "PAGINA INTERDETTA DAL CENTRO NAZIONALE PER IL CONTRASTO DELLA PEDOPORNOGRAFIA ONLINE (C.N.C.P.O.)" “PAGE BLOCKED BY THE NATIONAL CENTER FOR COMBATING ONLINE CHILD PORNOGRAPHY (C.N.C.P.O.)” Oh, we live in an interesting age.
We can research on what happened, but it is pretty obvious... You are nonetheless talking about the .ph - only that. And: italy has done much, much, 1000000 orders much worse (Gutenberg).
Felony charges for citizen deleting phone data at US Border
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Re: Felony charges for citizen deleting phone data at US Border
#682For exactly the border search scenario, I wish smartphones could be imaged and restored as easily as PCs. Imagine booting the phone from a flash drive, making an encrypted image of the phone on said drive, and writing a fresh OS before reaching the border. There's no deception required to protect sensitive data or avoid the seizure of an expensive phone. Consent to unlocking the phone, refuse to unlock the drive. The…
Isn’t this basically what you do with an iPhone. You reset/format it then it gets back to its original state with iCloud?
some of the banking apps, UBS banking require reactivation. So most of the apps yes with exceptions.
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#683Earlier quoted context omitted.
That seems overcomplicated and opening yourself up to risk IMO the correct solution is to erase your phone before crossing the border, and then restore it after you’ve crossed
What’s to stop them from seeing an empty phone, and then accuse you of deleting it when they asked to see it?
what? I’m not allowed to have a new phone?
Re: Felony charges for citizen deleting phone data at US Border
#684For exactly the border search scenario, I wish smartphones could be imaged and restored as easily as PCs. Imagine booting the phone from a flash drive, making an encrypted image of the phone on said drive, and writing a fresh OS before reaching the border. There's no deception required to protect sensitive data or avoid the seizure of an expensive phone. Consent to unlocking the phone, refuse to unlock the drive. The…
You have to ask yourself why this isn't possible anymore. Similar to how recording calls used to be possible but no longer. I don't know why it is but it is awfully strange that they keep tightening the belt on what we can do with our own devices.
You can do it on iOS officially. Android never had an official backup process, it was always through root apps. Backups could just be a casualty of killing rooted Android.
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#686Earlier quoted context omitted.
Probably, but it will be more valuable for society for him to be tried and found not guilty, setting a legal precedent.
Except that's not going to happen because evidence spoliation (legal term) is a crime. And that's what he did. You can say it shouldn't be but it is. This is slam dunk and it happens all the time. It's the same crime as destroying evidence that's been subpoenaed or that it has a preservation hold on it. And the court gets to assume that whatever was on that phone hurts your case, regardless of whether or not it did.…
What case law allows for the establishment of “evidence” before a crime was alleged? Is it not a catch-22?
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#687Legal question: if you had whole-disk encryption, and the duress password just zeroized the decryption key, would that be "destroying evidence?" Especially if there was a recovery possible but not instantly available, such as a Yubikey in a safe deposit box in a bank. That would take a subpoena to get, and there is an opportunity to challenge the subpoena in court first. Not instantly at the border. Something like th…
If you want actual legal advice pay for an actual lawyer. You aren’t going to get it asking a bunch of randoms on a tech forum. Since we’re techies we tend to think about technological nuances and have a certain literal frame of mind (eg “They can’t make it illegal for me to just type the wrong pin” is the type of thinking I’m talking about here) whereas in law weird precedents and your intent really matter so you re…
> we tend to think about technological nuances and have a certain literal frame of mind
see the colored bits essay for an ur-example of this
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#688To anyone worried, it doesn't matter how many felonies you get -- you can still be president one day.
Embarrassing.
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#689Next: felony charging people who travel without phone (because they are afraid of US border controls in general), because that looks suspicious.
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#690Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not just America. It's many countries. UK is same.
I know surveillance is on par in the UK, but is the UK also building and populating massive detention centers where people are kept without due process*? Are they flooding the streets of liberal cities with soldiers*? Killing citizens on the streets of liberal states (Minnesota) out in the open? Has nationalism completely overtaken the government and citizenship? Has the opposition party been completely neutered? Doe…
I'm not sure if surveillance is on a par in the UK anymore. ANPR (police run license plate recognition system that scoops up all plates that pass) was a big point of contention during 90s and 00s, but even that has been superseded by Flock (private collection, no major legal safeguards, AI based constant review rather than human review etc).