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The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Post by jwildeboer »

kfreds wrote: post #118

Hi, Mullvad has two owners, founders, and CEOs - Daniel Berntsson, and me, Fredrik Strömberg. All posts I've seen yesterday and today, including the newspaper articles, talk about Mullvad as if Daniel is the single owner, founder and CEO. It should be obvious that Daniel's private donation to a political party is not part of Mullvad's values or mission. If you have any questions, comments or concerns you're welcome t…

FTR. The reports I have seen have always made it clear that Mullvad has two owners/founders/CEOs. And while the donations may be private, they obviously come from money earned as part of being one of the founder/owner/CEO of Mullvad and thus raises questions on corporate responsibility.

Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Post by iAMkenough »

gustavus wrote: post #662
kfreds wrote: post #118

Hi, Mullvad has two owners, founders, and CEOs - Daniel Berntsson, and me, Fredrik Strömberg. All posts I've seen yesterday and today, including the newspaper articles, talk about Mullvad as if Daniel is the single owner, founder and CEO. It should be obvious that Daniel's private donation to a political party is not part of Mullvad's values or mission. If you have any questions, comments or concerns you're welcome t…

For whatever it's worth I use Mullvad because it lets me pay in Bitcoin is super easy to re-up and is super anonymous. I don't really give a darn who you voted for or what your founder did. I like the product I'll keep using it.

Do you happen to drive a Tesla?

Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Post by kfreds »

kamaitachi wrote: post #134
kfreds wrote: post #118

Hi, Mullvad has two owners, founders, and CEOs - Daniel Berntsson, and me, Fredrik Strömberg. All posts I've seen yesterday and today, including the newspaper articles, talk about Mullvad as if Daniel is the single owner, founder and CEO. It should be obvious that Daniel's private donation to a political party is not part of Mullvad's values or mission. If you have any questions, comments or concerns you're welcome t…

Hi Fredrik I’m a long time Mullvad customer, likely paid Mullvad upward of 400€ in the past number of years, as well as recommended it to friends and family members. What you seem to be missing in your comment, is that some of that money I paid, found its way to support an organisation that has extreme racist views. I’ve reached out to support and requested a refund of my outstanding credit. I’ll be moving on.

Hi. I get what you mean. I made that post with limited time. Sorry to hear you're leaving.

Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Post by kfreds »

actualwitch wrote: post #119
kfreds wrote: post #118

Hi, Mullvad has two owners, founders, and CEOs - Daniel Berntsson, and me, Fredrik Strömberg. All posts I've seen yesterday and today, including the newspaper articles, talk about Mullvad as if Daniel is the single owner, founder and CEO. It should be obvious that Daniel's private donation to a political party is not part of Mullvad's values or mission. If you have any questions, comments or concerns you're welcome t…

Hello Fredrik! As a heavy user of Mullvad in the past, easily spending hundreds of euros over the years, I was reserving my judgement to see what the official statement on this would be. Thank you, now I have my answer. > It should be obvious that Daniel's private donation to a political party is not part of Mullvad's values or mission. It should be obvious that what people are concerned is their money being used to…

Of course. Sorry to hear you're leaving. Thank you for the compliment.

Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Post by iAMkenough »

fastball wrote: post #448
miyoji wrote: post #415

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It should be obvious that Daniel's private donation to a political party is not part of Mullvad's values or mission. No, in fact, the opposite of this is obvious.

How do you figure?

Money that leaves your wallet and goes to Mullvad ends up funding politicians that believe non-whites shouldn’t have speech at all, as a personal choice by a top executive of the company.

The company’s values aren’t reflected accurately if you believe your money is funding free speech regardless of race.

Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Post by kfreds »

wanderer2323 wrote: post #560
kfreds wrote: post #118

Hi, Mullvad has two owners, founders, and CEOs - Daniel Berntsson, and me, Fredrik Strömberg. All posts I've seen yesterday and today, including the newspaper articles, talk about Mullvad as if Daniel is the single owner, founder and CEO. It should be obvious that Daniel's private donation to a political party is not part of Mullvad's values or mission. If you have any questions, comments or concerns you're welcome t…

Thank you for supporting the civil liberties and individual freedom of expression!

Thank you. :)

Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Post by KaiserPro »

distracted_boy wrote: post #629
KaiserPro wrote: post #430

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does it matter if they are left or right? The point is, they want to round up lawful citizens and turf them out of the country because they have the audacity to be slightly foreign, or worse born to someone foreign. that is the issue, not how much tax/spend big/little government.

That's not at all what they want. It's comments like yours that create unnecessary controversy, based on nothing but lies.

> create unnecessary controversy, based on nothing but lies.

given how much Sweden likes to preen it's past about being right and just, the WWII neutrality and taking all of denmarks jews over night, to then have shit like "They will also be forced to leave, even if they are born in Sweden" seems pretty opposed to what sweden likes to think it's self as.

Now if my quote is lies, I will retract it, but the source is here: https://x.com/AllardKlipp/status/2060109271635771457

Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Post by kfreds »

insane_dreamer wrote: post #660
kfreds wrote: post #118

Hi, Mullvad has two owners, founders, and CEOs - Daniel Berntsson, and me, Fredrik Strömberg. All posts I've seen yesterday and today, including the newspaper articles, talk about Mullvad as if Daniel is the single owner, founder and CEO. It should be obvious that Daniel's private donation to a political party is not part of Mullvad's values or mission. If you have any questions, comments or concerns you're welcome t…

What you said makes sense, but what the founders do matters. I'll never buy a Tesla car because of Elon's actions. I cancelled my Amazon Prime subscription because of Bezos' actions. There are plenty of people for whom it doesn't matter, but for some it does.

Indeed. It matters to me. In fact, most of my political opinions have atrophied, or rather I have self-censored. Daniel believes that is not the right trade-off to make in this case. I understand his point of view, and disagree.

Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Post by jackb4040 »

sunaookami wrote: post #658
dlgeek wrote: post #591

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's not just the CEO, he's a co-owner... Meaning that the profits from the business acrue to him... and therefore enable this party. So, it's a question of "am I ok paying for this service, knowing that a portion of that money will flow to this political party and how do I feel about the results of that funding?"

How do you feel about providing value to Hacker News, a plattform made by Y Combinator funding several startups, many of them destroying our society and benefiting from mass surveillance? You can do this argument with every company.

I'm not paying to use HN. I'm jaded and opposed to techno-optimism, so if anything by just expressing my honest opinions here I'm wearing away at those startups' power by challenging their most critical base of supporters.
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