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U.S. government will decide who gets to use GPT-5.6

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Post by buran77 »

throwaw12 wrote: post #635
kreutz wrote: post #630

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Correction: Can you yet?

Anthropic and OpenAI: Dear Uncle Sam, it seems laptops became too powerful, can you please do something Uncle Sam: For national security reasons starting from now on every purchase of GPU model with higher than X Petaflops will need written permission by the US president Anthropic and OpenAI: Look poor citizens, we are willing to share our capacity with you in limited form, by using our LLM you can avoid spending 35…

It's the age old "Help me, politicians. You're my only hope".

Anthropic, Open AI & Co. realized at some point that if they can't make money with barely any competition they sure as hell won't if the market is flooded. So here they are slamming the door behind them.

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Post by microgpt »

throwaw12 wrote: post #635
kreutz wrote: post #630

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Correction: Can you yet?

Anthropic and OpenAI: Dear Uncle Sam, it seems laptops became too powerful, can you please do something Uncle Sam: For national security reasons starting from now on every purchase of GPU model with higher than X Petaflops will need written permission by the US president Anthropic and OpenAI: Look poor citizens, we are willing to share our capacity with you in limited form, by using our LLM you can avoid spending 35…

China: look at these GPUs we reverse engineered, do you want an RTX 5090 for half the price Nvidia sells them for?

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Post by [deleted] »

notnullorvoid wrote: post #652
mips_avatar wrote: post #282

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This is what OpenAI/Anthropic want, it's better marketing than they can pay for -- and it creates a precedent for permanently banning the next generation of open weights models

Banning next gen open models would never happen globally, and would be a major disadvantage to any country that does. If the USA continues to put barriers into the release of models, open and/or foreign models will start to out perform them. If open models are competitive enough nothing will stop even US companies from running them locally.

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Post by thewebguyd »

King-Aaron wrote: post #4
verdverm wrote: post #3

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seriously, ordered more hardware this week, as it gets more dystopian every week wondering when more people will raise their voice and get engaged

History shows that people generally start speaking out about things after it's too late to do so.

More specifically, the masses here are well satisfied with proverbial bread and circuses.

We won't see mass action until enough people have literally nothing left to lose. For now, folks have plenty to risk and lose by taking action. There is not nearly enough homelessness or starvation yet for people to rise up. The masses are surprisingly tolerant of authoritarian oppression so long as food can keep being put on the table.

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Post by TheBigSalad »

razighter777 wrote: post #135

I hope this doesn't become the new norm where government becomes the bottleneck for innovation in the AI space. It's worrying that with no formal and transparent policy framework that the government will be picking winners and losers and stifling innovation. There's been no public policy, executive order, legislation, or otherwise on this, I wonder if anyone has filed FOIA requests for these decisions or the conversa…

Caused by AI marketing teams hyping everyone up.

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Post by thewebguyd »

platinumrad wrote: post #238

I can't tell if this is bad for the big labs, or good because it means they now have an excuse for not showing meaningful progress in the lead ups to their IPOs.

It'll only be good if they do get to release it to the general public in a format that is not overly nerfed.

If they don't get to release, its bad. It paints a picture that we are largely stuck with current capabilities for a while and the party is over. All those promises of "you'll get to fire everyone" now go concretely unfulfilled.

Their entire valuations rely on the assumption of continued massive breakthroughs in intelligence and capabilities, and having revenue on part with taking a share of the GPD provided by white collar workers as they get replaced.

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Post by forshaper »

palata wrote: post #526
Sol- wrote: post #348

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If the US really cracks down on frontier model access, you'll see them make Chinese open models illegal. You might say "oh well, let them try", but they will just put direct and secondary sanctions on every company whose systems have used Chinese models in some way. They just have to make an example out of a few international companies and no one will dare to use Chinese frontier models, at least commercially.

> but they will just put direct and secondary sanctions on every company whose systems have used Chinese models in some way What about this: companies stop providing AI tokens to their employees entirely and instead, give a monthly budget for developer tools? They can even go as far as saying "if we realise that you use Chinese AI, you will get a warning and then be fired". It's not like one can identify code coming…

Not yet, but I could see them requiring some sort of signing in the future.

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Post by [deleted] »

utilize1808 wrote: post #473
rgbrenner wrote: post #283

Im not worried about this at all. The OpenAI, Anthropic and the US government can play this game all they want... They're just accelerating the development of open source models; and helping destroy the lead the US has built in AI, and their profit margins along with it. This is like the battle between PostgreSQL and Oracle all over. Move up market, isolate yourself to enterprises, and watch while everyone else build…

The government will just claim that unsanctioned models have the potential to deliberately introduce security vulnerabilities when working on IT projects (e.g. be trained to strongly yet covertly favoring introducing compromised dependencies when you are not looking). Then laws will be made to forbid organizations who use models other than those from the sanctioned labs to participate in critical projects on national…

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Post by mannanj »

jiggawatts wrote: post #622
mannanj wrote: post #560

A big problem is "U.S. government" muddies the conversation because of how undefinable and large that group is. Who is deciding who gets to use GPT-5.6? Which organizations? Which leaders? Focus on that to have a clearer conversation. Without doing this it's like jerking each other off to stroke our egos. You might as well as say "The World will decide who gets to use GPT-5.6"

> Which leaders? Trump and his cronies. Nobody else in the US Gov is so openly corrupt and has the unitary executive power to ban the products of privately held companies for sale without there being a public record (i.e.: an act of congress).

I see. That’s at least workable. Now you have a face and a group of people responsible for your suffering and problems.

And what are you going to do about it?

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