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Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by sixothree »

chii wrote: post #471
sixothree wrote: post #434

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This biggest offender creeping into my feeds currently seems to be long form history videos. I'll be 10 minutes into a 90 minute WWII video and notice a completely incorrect pronunciation of something and realize what is happening. They're certainly getting better at fooling us. Especially when they speak slowly with a calm voice.

if the content is sufficiently good, why does it matter that it is ai or not?

I honestly think your questions has more profound implications than other responders seem to appreciate.

I think a correlating answer can be found in visual effects for movies. And the answer "depends". When it's poorly done, the scene feels off or unbelievable somehow. But when done well, people have an enjoyable experience.

This same conversation existed when moving from practical effects to digital. and in the end, audiences only cared about quality.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by mullingitover »

jefftk wrote: post #351
mullingitover wrote: post #297

There's probably a sizable niche market for an absolutist anti-AI video hosting platform. It doesn't need to be perfect, just needs one simple policy: Post AI and you're banned for life, no appeals.

No appeals combines very poorly with any detector that sometimes has false positives.

You’d think, but then TikTok has been notoriously ruthless with their arbitrary unappealable bans and they’re so successful it became an issue of national security.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by scotty79 »

Lambdanaut wrote: post #670
dmos62 wrote: post #652

Children and seniors are victimized by AI content on a huge scale. Regular adults like most of us here don't ever get such videos in their feeds. I saw kids spend many hours a day watching automatically generated videos. Not always AI-generated, sometimes it's AI-assisted and procedurally generated. It is quite unbelievable how vulnerable weaker minds, for the lack of a better term, are to AI content. I saw a group o…

The process designed to optimize for attracting our attention has done what it was designed to do: optimized for attracting our attention, at the cost of all other incentives. The image of a throbbing, mutating, dark spiral is conjured in my mind. The more it is watched, the more it begins to grow into a twisted visage of the viewer as it attempts to recreate all of their desires and fears within itself. It is meanin…

> process designed to optimize for attracting our attention

namely: "social" media

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by tkcashman »

nsxwolf wrote: post #679
tkcashman wrote: post #647

I see the comments below with the positive and negative aspects of AI, and I think there are very good points made. I've had this discussion before with many friends of mine, and the point I usually make is this: good or bad, there's no going back to the "good old days." I think of those movie trailers where the cast appears to plead with us to watch their upcoming movie in a theater, "the way it's meant to be seen."…

Good movies still pack theaters.

They do indeed, but the trend is clear. In the 1940's, people in the US went to the movies about 25 times a year. In 2002, it was just under 5 times a year. Today, it's around 2 times a year.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by scotty79 »

emursebrian wrote: post #662
dmos62 wrote: post #652

Children and seniors are victimized by AI content on a huge scale. Regular adults like most of us here don't ever get such videos in their feeds. I saw kids spend many hours a day watching automatically generated videos. Not always AI-generated, sometimes it's AI-assisted and procedurally generated. It is quite unbelievable how vulnerable weaker minds, for the lack of a better term, are to AI content. I saw a group o…

I mostly get AI slop ads for scam products, though slop videos do creep into my shorts feed.

it became for me a quick signal for me that I'm watching an ad, because it doesn't normally pop up in my feeds

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by bluGill »

microtonal wrote: post #584
mcv wrote: post #572

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess people want to prove they were authentically there, experiencing it themselves instead of watching it on TV. And I sort of get it. When I'm on vacation, I like making my own photos of everything, even if professional photographers have already made hundreds of far better photos of it. Somehow the ones I made mean more to me. And I don't even share those photos on social media. So on the one hand making your o…

When I'm on vacation, I like making my own photos of everything, even if professional photographers have already made hundreds of far better photos of it. I have found when looking a photos from 20 years ago, I skip most of the shots of only landscapes, buildings, etc. The only interesting shots are shots with the people that I travelled with in them. They bring back all the fond memories, the things we did together,…

I try to make memories. While you are correct that the people are what make the vacation, the time getting everyone to pose for a picture is wasting time they could use to make memories. Even if you are getting an action shot (and thus now posed) you could be out there playing with them instead.

Nothing with with a few photos. However make sure you are making memories not just getting photos of someone else.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by narag »

dmos62 wrote: post #652

Children and seniors are victimized by AI content on a huge scale. Regular adults like most of us here don't ever get such videos in their feeds. I saw kids spend many hours a day watching automatically generated videos. Not always AI-generated, sometimes it's AI-assisted and procedurally generated. It is quite unbelievable how vulnerable weaker minds, for the lack of a better term, are to AI content. I saw a group o…

I've found a curious variety of AI videos: releases of motorbikes that don't exist, brought by Youtube algorithm. I guess the point is just clicks or ads money. Some comments, by bots or gullible users.

No longer seen recently, not sure it's because YT's crackdown or me repeteadly clicking "not recommend me this channel" (there're a handful)

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by LocalExt »

Redeemer06 wrote: post #583
injidup wrote: post #474

Last weekend a group of friends and I sat by the lake. One had a guitar, and we were all singing off-key to old classics and dancing to salsa and reggaeton. We were doing it together, and it was great. Much more fun than listening alone or caring about the authenticity of the music or not. It was the participation, not the product, that was the key. Something went wrong with music and culture in recent times. Partici…

I’m really in the middle of what I should think about Gen AI, and to be honest, it disturbs me. I’ve been playing guitar since I was very young. I have good skills, I can play hard songs, and I compose a lot on guitar, drums, and bass. I love the process of creating, but I’ve always hated using complicated applications just to get a clean recording or mess around with adding MIDI tracks. Because of that, I recently t…

I think AI is good as a 'muse' or getting idea (not just for music)...Creating anything with AI is as a ghostwriting. You are labeled as a creator, but you aren't. "...but as a tool for energy and participation, it completely unlocked my creativity." I totally agree...This could be the reason of AI in any kind of art.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by hennell »

codeflo wrote: post #491
injidup wrote: post #474

Last weekend a group of friends and I sat by the lake. One had a guitar, and we were all singing off-key to old classics and dancing to salsa and reggaeton. We were doing it together, and it was great. Much more fun than listening alone or caring about the authenticity of the music or not. It was the participation, not the product, that was the key. Something went wrong with music and culture in recent times. Partici…

> If AI music allows someone with less formal musical skills to feel like they are joining in and making something, then maybe it has its value. An emphatic no. What we need to do is to stop comparing every hobby performance, whether it's music or dancing, with the top 10 artists in their field. We need people to learn, and try, and feel safe to be visible and thus vulnerable in group situations without fear of being…

> What we need to do is to stop comparing every hobby performance, whether it's music or dancing, with the top 10 artists in their field.

I feel like one of the less discussed issues of the hyper-connected world is there are no small ponds to be the big fish in anymore. Used to be you could be the best in your school, church, town even city etc - even if you weren't that good. I remember being astounded as a kid by a woman who juggled 5 tennis balls in a local talent show. Now I can hop on youtube and watch people do way more impressive feats it doesn't seem so unique. I suspect that 5 ball routine might still be the greatest juggling I've seen in person, but it still doesn't compare to random acts I've seen online.

But especially with the para-social relationships of social media people feel connected even to big names now. You might not compare the local young singer to Taylor Swift, but people will to the tiktok singer they 'know' who liked their reply once.

It's gratifying and inspiring to be top of your class in something, but in a world where it's always a class of millions, you know you'll never reach the top.

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