dmitrivMS should be fired by microsoft if they wanna take ownership of this legal fiasco
Come on. At least one person at Microsoft is trying to own up to a mistake and fix it.
VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage
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Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage
#682The day I see it does this is the day I switch to zed, or whatever.
Unfortunately zed is not a complete, finished product in the sense that VSCode is.
Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage
#683Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage
#684Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47992781 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47992568 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47992475
First comment does not sound constructive - are you interested in my opinion on (n)vim? I am not a legal, so can't comment on legal things. However, I have already responded elsewhere here that this feature has nothing to do with licensing or ownership and was added for those that want the attribution. I understand the desire to see anything Microsoft as bad and evil, but we are really just trying to make a better ex…
It was pretty obvious from your first comment that you were going to get creative with the definition of "constructive".
> are you interested in my opinion on (n)vim?
The first comment is three short lines. One of them is the extremely reasonable and relevant question of where else this has happened in VSCode.
And you think that the commenter is wondering about your opinion on (n)vim? That is what you think they are interested in?
Could you just, like, ignore the signature if it is distracting you from the only other line that has a question in it?
Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage
#685This feels like the modern version of 'Sent from my iPhone' but much more invasive. Git commits are legal and technical records. Falsifying who authored a piece of code just to pump up AI usage stats is a huge breach of trust and it is disappointing to see Microsoft prioritize branding over the integrity of the developer's log. I expect my IDE to record what happened, not what the marketing department wants people to…
One could argue that Co-Authored by Copilot means 'not under copyright'
One would be completely wrong.
AI is a tool that may make copyright violations more likely, but whether the output violates copyright is a property of the output, not how it was produced.
If you copy and paste leaked closed source code or if your AI produces it verbatim, you're in trouble either way. Change it up a bit and you're fine in practice in both cases.
Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage
#686One fascinating thing about the whole AI phenomenon is how incredibly hostile it is to _standards_. Whether something works properly, or is ethical, or is true, no longer matters at all; all that matters is "pls use our AI". Microsoft spent literal decades rehabilitating their reputation. And then set fire to the whole thing in an offering to their robot gods. And it's not just them. There was a time that Google care…
> Microsoft spent literal decades rehabilitating their reputation. And then set fire to the whole thing in an offering to their robot gods.
When did this happen?
Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage
#687Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fair point. We did catch it internally in testing (as we use VS Code for all our work, so some folks did stumble on it), but I think we underestimated the impact and should do a better job at that.
This is honestly the most concerning part of all of this. You're saying you knew that this exact bug was present up front and still decided to release it? This basically invalidates the entire premise that it was an innocent mistake. It's impossible for me to believe that you actually thought that people wouldn't care about 100% of their commits being attributed to Copilot even when it was never used. Either you're m…
Agreed, this approach feels like folks at Microsoft still feel they have enough karma to burn. It's way past that.
Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage
#688I wonder what sort of liability this introduces for Microsoft when their 'Co-Aauthored by Copilot' code causes harm.
Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage
#689Given that there are 536 different types of "Copilot" under Microsoft umbrella, I am surprised they did not distinguish between GitHub Copilot and Microsoft Copilot here.
Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage
#690This feels like the modern version of 'Sent from my iPhone' but much more invasive. Git commits are legal and technical records. Falsifying who authored a piece of code just to pump up AI usage stats is a huge breach of trust and it is disappointing to see Microsoft prioritize branding over the integrity of the developer's log. I expect my IDE to record what happened, not what the marketing department wants people to…
I've never heard of git commits being used in a legal case, do you have any examples?