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Re: UAE to leave OPEC

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Post by ivell »

zoogeny wrote: post #459
pjc50 wrote: post #113

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The briefly elected Muslim Brotherhood government of Egypt was .. not as liberal as the Tahrir Square protests demanded.

I think you might be overestimating how liberal the protesters were. Source: I was in Tahrir square during the protests and spoke with many Egyptians. Almost all of the complaints I heard while I was in Egypt were about corruption and lack of opportunity. It was more frustration with rampant nepotism/cronyism and less a desire for liberalism. From the ground, it appeared to be driven by economic forces and not politi…

I have a feeling that people in the West have assumptions about democracy being better for the society based on their own education levels and social advancement. Democracy is better if the general population have cultural affinity towards fairness, equality and respect for other religions. Democracy does not mean fairness, human values or such high moral standards that general people in the West assume. Democracy is just the will of the people. If they are uneducated, racists and supremacists, the elected government would represent that.

Re: UAE to leave OPEC

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Post by nailer »

basilgohar wrote: post #678
nailer wrote: post #673

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> When your opponent in an argument is this disconnected from reality, that's when you realizing engaging rationally is fruitless. Yes precisely. > This is just hasbara propaganda and Zionist lies and it has no place in a civil discussion. Oh I thought you meant the Islamist propaganda. Iran threatening the US, funding Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis are documented facts. Iran even wanted a ceasefire against Hezboll…

Jewish people live peacefully in Palestine for centuries before the Zionists came from Europe. What's absent from your comment entirely is the humanity and rights of the Palestinians whose presence the Israelis deny entirely. This is what I mean by being detached from reality.

First thing: your response failed to address anything in the comment you're replying to:

> > Iran threatening the US, funding Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis are documented facts. Iran even wanted a ceasefire against Hezbollah in the recent negotations. And Jewish people deserve to be able to live in their own homeland, thinking otherwise is racist.

Do you actually want to respond to that or will you just want to rant about people thinking Jews should dare live in their homeland?

> Jewish people live peacefully in Palestine

No. There is documented history of violence and suppression by Muslim colonisers towards Jewish people. This is consistent with how Islam has treated other minority groups in areas it has controlled for the last thousand years. This is why the British partitioned the area into Jewish and Arab states.

> Zionists came from Europe.

Jewish people are from Judea. The key is in the name. A name which is older than the Bar Kochba rebellion which caused the Romans to rename Judea to Philestinia, which Yassar Arafat and the other people that invented the "Palestinian" identity in the 1960 are not.

> rights of the Palestinians whose presence the Israelis deny entirely.

Arabs in Israel have more rights than Arabs in Arab countries.

Jewish people in Gaza and Palestinian parts of Judea/Samaria are torturedm raped and killed.

Who is denying rights?

Re: UAE to leave OPEC

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Post by negura »

ericmay wrote: post #642
negura wrote: post #513

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> Stop making excuses and defending brutal authoritarian dictatorships. this style of argument really falls flat in 2026 tho. at least for a global audience. it seems you don't appreciate how much america's image as a champion in good faith of freedom, democracy and prosperity has been shattered. not least because the old neoliberal guard has been busy undermining it (see carney's speech at WEF, where he started by p…

I speak for myself, not my entire country. Part of the problem here is that folks have become so angry about Donald Trump that they've forgotten the broader picture. Taking out Maduro, taking action to stop Iran's regime, and more are unambiguously good things from the prospect of "freedom and democracy". There's a lot of conflict and anger and whatnot regarding trade and Trump's general idiocy, but if all of the wor…

as i mentioned elsewhere. i don't disagree that america is in a strong position, relatively to everyone else. and has the means to achieve its interests. even without the superficial image of acting in good faith. but the old messaging ("america's tide is lifting all boats" etc) comes across uncalibrated

Re: UAE to leave OPEC

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Post by itopaloglu83 »

kasey_junk wrote: post #112
itopaloglu83 wrote: post #15

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They might be leaving either for a) price independence or b) currency flexibility.

OPEC doesn’t enforce currency or monetary policy rules.

You’re right, though they enforce quotas on how much you’re allowed to sell etc.

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Post by SideburnsOfDoom »

laughing_man wrote: post #679
SideburnsOfDoom wrote: post #623

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Odd take, as the EU was founded as a peace project (1) and external threats of invasion obviously are not. But please, no more of these idiosyncratic opinions. 1) source, 1950: https://european-union.europa.eu/principles-countries-histor...

Not every opinion you disagree with can be reasonably labeled idiosyncratic. You say the EU was founded as a peace project, but a less idealistic view would be the EU was founded as a Franco-German alliance to control the rest of Europe.

Thank you for expressing your views, but this conversation is of no further interest to me.

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Post by don_esteban »

rramadass wrote: post #586
don_esteban wrote: post #564

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I think we are talking past each other. The increase in production capacity is irrelevant if you don't have a way to export the said production. My question was specifically about the increase in the pipeline's capacity. Because your statement "As pointed out above Hormuz is being bypassed with ADCOP's capacity being ramped up." does not make sense otherwise. Chatgpt tell me this this: Short term: increase ADCOP from…

No, we are not talking past each other ;-) You simply are not understanding my comments nor reading the provided informative links. There are three things to consider viz. 1) Production Capacity i.e. new wells/sources 2) Pipeline Capacity i.e. pipeline bandwidth and no. of pipelines 3) Storage Capacity i.e both at terminal/port and distributed worldwide. The Iran/Strait of Hormuz problem was foreseen long ago and the…

You yourself said "five year from now, there will be far better bypass options". That is very, very long term for what is now going on with Hormuz.

Yes, petrochemicals have many, many applications. But those are not in millions barrels per day, that volume is driven primarily by transportation, that can (and is, currently) being replaced by electric.

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Post by bdangubic »

nailer wrote: post #674
bdangubic wrote: post #628

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totally. iran’s navy was advancing towards us east coast, their bombers were getting ready to fly over the atlantic and rain down on us heavily. we were all sitting here scared shitless of iran :)

It only takes one nuke and they hit targets 4000 in their recent missile attacks.

yes, this also makes sense, they will deploy a nuke (which they don't have and never will have) knowing fully well that this will cause full and total destructions of their country and all of their citizens. c'mon mate, be real :)

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Post by i_think_so »

ajross wrote: post #540
jmyeet wrote: post #532

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It's more complex than that. Saudi Arabia has the East-West Pipeline [1] that takes ~7Mbpd (million barrels per day) of oil to Red Sea ports to avoid the Strait of Hormuz. They were already using it so there's not a lot of extra capacity they can get out. If we continue up the escalation ladder, the next big risk is that the Houthis close Bab al-Mandab, which is a not-quite-as-narrow but still vulnerable chokepoint t…

> Asian countries in particular are going to burn They won't sit still, though. Eventually, if this were tried, we'd see Chinese-flagged tankers buying passage rights from Iran and being escorted by PLAN ships. No way does Commander TACO take that shot. The US interdiction threat in the gulf is empty, and everyone know it. Iran gets paid at the end of every story. The whole boondoggle has been a failure for the US in…

+1 for "Commander TACO".

Mass killing, global recession, fertilizer shortages potentially leading to widespread famine and....Slashdot references?

Oh man, this timeline is the worst, but it is absolutely the most entertaining.

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Post by dlubarov »

IAmBroom wrote: post #351
dlubarov wrote: post #334

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They can just get married abroad. There are even online ceremonies now. A decent number of Israeli Jews have to do that as well, since Israel recognizes Jewish marriages only under orthodox rabbis. Some Israeli Jews are not even considered Jews under strict orthodox rules.

So, not a religiously free state, as OP said.

It's not like it's designed to be discriminatory. In practice it's Jews that are most affected (if they don't conform to strict Orthodox rules), so if anything it's discriminatory against Jews, which wouldn't make much sense.

For a much more serious example of lack of religious freedom, we could look to Palestinian law, which only permits Islamic or Christian marriages. Not to mention that selling land to a Jew is high treason.

Re: UAE to leave OPEC

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Post by ericmay »

negura wrote: post #683
ericmay wrote: post #642

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I speak for myself, not my entire country. Part of the problem here is that folks have become so angry about Donald Trump that they've forgotten the broader picture. Taking out Maduro, taking action to stop Iran's regime, and more are unambiguously good things from the prospect of "freedom and democracy". There's a lot of conflict and anger and whatnot regarding trade and Trump's general idiocy, but if all of the wor…

as i mentioned elsewhere. i don't disagree that america is in a strong position, relatively to everyone else. and has the means to achieve its interests. even without the superficial image of acting in good faith. but the old messaging ("america's tide is lifting all boats" etc) comes across uncalibrated

Sure, but you can step outside of an American context and still recognize that we shouldn’t support these authoritarian regimes.
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