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Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

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Post by nothrabannosir »

Gareth321 wrote: post #663
thuridas wrote: post #625

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does this administration care to much about the law? A judge can rule something but they mostly keep doing the same thing. Not to mention the supreme court that is willing to let this happen.

> Does this administration care to much about the law? As a European my opinion of Trump could not be any lower, but it is my understanding that they have complied with all court orders to date (with some being contested all the way to the Supreme Court). They are certainly testing the authority limits of various courts and congressional processes, but they have complied with all legal processes to date.

Notable exception: the TikTok ban.

Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

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Post by 20after4 »

Gareth321 wrote: post #663
thuridas wrote: post #625

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does this administration care to much about the law? A judge can rule something but they mostly keep doing the same thing. Not to mention the supreme court that is willing to let this happen.

> Does this administration care to much about the law? As a European my opinion of Trump could not be any lower, but it is my understanding that they have complied with all court orders to date (with some being contested all the way to the Supreme Court). They are certainly testing the authority limits of various courts and congressional processes, but they have complied with all legal processes to date.

I don't think this is accurate. According to the New York Times¹ (among numerous other sources), the government has defied court orders at least a small double-digit number of times.

"At least 35 times since August, federal judges have ordered the administration to explain why it should not be punished for violating their orders in immigration cases."

1. https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/23/us/politics/judges-contem...

Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

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Post by Pay08 »

ap99 wrote: post #664
keithnz wrote: post #443

weird everyone's focusing on privacy and google.... Not the actual insanity of a government targeting people who are legally allowed to be in the US. You can try to find a way to keep things private, and many of the people on HN likely have the capability to do so. But hiding from your government because they are weaponizing your information against you seems to be the wrong approach. I just don't understand the Amer…

How is this insane? The US isn't some global free zone where everyone has a right to come and go - do as they please. If you came to the US legally with a visa. Great. When you signed your visa documents there were some questions they asked you and some fine print that basically made you liable for "bad behavior." I'm an American living in the UK and I'm under no illusion that if I start doing dumb stuff here it's po…

I don't think protests in general are "behaving outside your best". Now what those protests contain is an entirely different matter. I read an article about the arrest of a foreign student recently who attended numerous "death to America" protests. I can support deportation in a case like that (even if only for the complete lack of self awareness), but not for all protests.

Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

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Post by Pay08 »

fshafique wrote: post #661
emmelaich wrote: post #526

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> "the right of the people peaceably to assemble" "Peaceably" is important. If you think the pro-Palestinian protests on campus are peaceful, try wearing a yarmulke and walking anywhere near them. Or anywhere on many campuses, on any day, protest on-going or not.

Search Google images for "yarmulke palestinian protest" and tell me there aren't many Jewish people fighting for a Free Palestine. Every pro-Palestine rally I've been to has had a contingent of Jewish groups in our midst. You'll only get hated on if you show or wave the Israeli flag.

There are videos of Jews getting harassed and attacked by "pro-Palestinians" all over the internet while they attempt to get to class. Jews have been arrested in the UK "for their own safety" for existing near a protest. Not to mention the rampant ZOG and other related bullshit.

Even if there are Jews at some of these protests (as opposed to random people wearing kippahs), all you're doing is whitewashing violence. Same as Candace Owens and MAGA.

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Post by Pay08 »

traderj0e wrote: post #580
dmix wrote: post #554

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> because they're making us pay taxes to a small country overseas. I read recently that 80% of the money the US commits to Israel has to be spent in the United States. Similar to the US funding Ukraine it is largely just buying from domestic US manufacturers or old stockpiles. It's a sort of stimulus program that funds the US military industrial complex and prop up allies. There was law passed that 100% of foreign mi…

Think of it as us giving them weapons for free, either way we're paying for it so their taxes don't have to. Egypt and Jordan's aid are for Israel's protection too. The only thing that has ever rivaled this was Ukraine aid, which wasn't bipartisan as we've seen.

This is the exact same logic as the people who complain about NASA "wasting" money.

But beyond the fact that the aid is basically a subvention for American defence companies (Israel spends way more than 3 billion on American weapons), it also protects American weapons manufacturers from Israeli competition through other terms in the agreement, which is actually a serious threat to them.

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Post by Pay08 »

traderj0e wrote: post #482
dwaltrip wrote: post #475

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That’s rather generic… Do you apply that principle universally in your life? C’mon, be honest about why you doubt the story.

Yeah I apply that principle. To be honest, it's that plus the fact that this article omits things we already know. It wasn't just that he "attended a pro-Palestine protest at Cornell University," they shut down a jobs fair. I went to a liberal college too, I know that a lot of these "peaceful" protests are actually quite forceful and infringe on others' rights more than anyone ever reports. My bias is in the other di…

Yes, I'm sure the Jews control the world...

Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

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Post by GorbachevyChase »

keithnz wrote: post #443

weird everyone's focusing on privacy and google.... Not the actual insanity of a government targeting people who are legally allowed to be in the US. You can try to find a way to keep things private, and many of the people on HN likely have the capability to do so. But hiding from your government because they are weaponizing your information against you seems to be the wrong approach. I just don't understand the Amer…

Just rolling over? What do you imagine regular people should do? The plucky underdogs with good hearts and their dreams take on the CIA, the FBI, and whatever you want to call the criminal network above them, and the good guys win? This isn’t a movie. Be smart and find a way to survive with your soul intact.

Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

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Post by Pay08 »

xdennis wrote: post #415
sleazebreeze wrote: post #257

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Should he be harassed and deported for this?

Yes. If you're a guest in a country and don't follow the law you should be deported. You don't need waste money putting them on trial (except for murder/rape/etc), just deport.

That only works if the accused has committed a crime in their home country too.
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