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? This includes all male citizens aged 18 - 45.
It doesn't, only German citizens
Immigrants can be German citizens.
German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Busification - the definition of consent is very stretched.
Thats not how most of the manpower gets there, without even knowing the Ukraine example, I venture to guess based on the superior morale of Ukrainian forces, that most are drafted willingly. This still does not prove the very general statement GP made, which doesn't align with draft reality in historical wars
Many of those who were drafted willingly, already died, it’s the 5th year of war
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The OP said it was not for “defence.” I am arguing the reasons were for the defense of American interests. That is objectively true.
Invading other countries to take their resources and kill civilians is not defence. With your logic, Russia is also acting in a defensive manner.
They meant "defense of interests", not "defense of the country" (as in a geographical entity).
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It is for the defense of the American national interests and friend nations: - Iraq: 1) to expel Iraq from Kuwait, and 2) weapons (though this turned out to be mistaken) after the 9/11 attacks - Iran: we don’t need another nuclear nation - Syria: destroy terrorists (ISIS), enforce the red line on chemical weapons, and to protect US troops (when we attacked Iran-supported militias) - Vietnam: to stop the spread of com…
That is basically redefining the word defense, though. I can’t be like “it was self defense” if I beat somebody up because they are getting too big at the gym and they could beat me up later if I don’t beat them up first. That doesn’t mean such a thing is never ever justified, in international relations, it just ain’t “defense”.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0wIgeAqLiA Turn CC=on for those in the USA/EU. Our Russian brothers and sisters want to be part of EU instead of the Kremlin, fight me. What is super fucked up is that while Russian education is top-notch, see Google.com founders, meanwhile, Russia is so fucked up that they cannot take advantage of any of this. Buckle tf up Europe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBG3Gdt5OGs
(>180,000,000 Views, and most USA/EU normies have no idea)
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#688> While the law requires men to request the permit, the spokesperson clarified, it also obliges the military career center to issue it, if "no specific military service is expected during the period in question.” > "Since military service under current law is based exclusively on voluntary participation, such permissions must generally be granted,” the official added. > When asked, the ministry spokesperson pointed o…
Previously it was conditional, only in effect “in the event of tension or defense” (machine translation), but they are very exceptional circumstances -- AFAIK not ever invoked since unification. The change this year was to make it applicable regardless of those conditions: “Outside the tension or defense case, §§ 3 [...]” shall apply. This is a significant change from the previous Cold War policy. I have talked about…
Idk why you are being downvoted, what you said is factually correct.
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The OP said it was not for “defence.” I am arguing the reasons were for the defense of American interests. That is objectively true.
That depends greatly on which interests you allow to be defined as "American". The vast majority of American people would have preferred not to be involved in most of our foreign adventures. The rich and powerful thought differently. Is our citizenship determined by the size of our bank accounts?
This is factually incorrect. Here are the estimates for the rates of support for each conflict at the beginning of the conflict:
- Iraq (Gulf War): 75-80%
- Iraq (2003): 65-76%
- Syria: 35-50%
- Vietnam: 65-75%
- Iran: 42%
Alexander Hamilton wrote that governance should involve people with “wisdom to discern” and “virtue to pursue the common good”. The US is not a direct democracy; it is a constitutional republic. The definition of what constitutes American interests is literally whatever the United States federal government says it is.
SOURCES:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War
- https://news.gallup.com/poll/8212/only-americans-believe-war...
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_domestic_reactions_to_the_2...
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposition_to_United_States_in...
- https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2026/04/01/iran-war-...
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A little crazier — the old were once young, and could have been voted into a war themselves.
Trans people exist. So: Some women were treated by law as "once men, and could have been voted into a war themselves Footnote: But not necessarily felt to be correctly labeled men, ever in life.
Body dysmorphia is a mental illness.