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The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Post by moxifly7 »

epsters wrote: post #641
tlogan wrote: post #548

I hope this war will be short. And that the result will be Iran becoming a democracy that fully joins the global community. The Iranian people (Persians, Azerbaijanis, Kurds, and others), deserve better. It would benefit the entire world to see Iran integrated and engaged internationally.

There is zero likelihood of that. The IRGC and Iranian forces are a million strong and have a loyal base of support among the population. Without boots on the ground, relying on air power and 'moderate rebels' you are looking at at least a decade of war (using Syria and Libya as best-case-scenarios examples; Assad regime was nothing like the Iranian). The Israelis are dividing the opposition by pushing the out-of-tou…

Interesting point on Israel pushing for the monarchy to come back.

Democracy in the middle-east does not result in Israel or US aligned governments, but the monarchies have proven more interested in preserving their autocratic dynasties and quite easy and eager to work with Israel and the US to preserve themselves.

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Post by derwiki »

coffinbirth wrote: post #598
coffinbirth wrote: post #494

> Iranian media now report 40 killed and 48 students injured following the strike on a girls’ elementary school in Minab, as rescue and recovery efforts continue. Congrats America!

UPDATE: Reports now say that over 80 school children between the age of 7 and 12 were killed in Minab. How is the Epstein Regime going to survive this politically? How is the Senate (Lindsey Graham, Ted Cruz, etc.) going to survive this politically?

I think you forgot /s to your last two points

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Post by jraby3 »

alex_low wrote: post #382

I'm surprised this has not been mentioned, for context: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Iran_massacres

Compare how much Israel was in the news for targeting militants these past two years in Gaza.

How biased is the press? Iran slaughters 36k people in a week and... crickets. Israel refuses to let its hostages die while Hamas hides out in hospitals and schools and the world is against Israel not Iran.

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Post by reliabilityguy »

readitalready wrote: post #670
epolanski wrote: post #351

The president of peace btw. I'm baffled at the lack of calls to boycott the Fifa world cup in US. And at the double standards applied to Russians and Israelis in their wars of aggression. I guess Israel can play the "October 7th" card at least which was an insane horror.

The war started in 1948 by Europeans attempting to attack and invade Palestine to grab their land to build their mediterranean resort homes. The war never stopped. There was no surrender documents signed. The foreign invaders have always been in the state of war. It's why their colonial outposts are required to have bomb shelters. Not sure why you would consider October 7 an "insane horror" when the foreign invaders…

> The war started in 1948 by Europeans attempting to attack and invade Palestine to grab their land to build their mediterranean resort homes.

Jewish people lived there for the past two thousands years. Hebron massacre by Arabs happened in 1929.

> It's why their colonial outposts are required to have bomb shelters.

I think they have bomb shelters to save their civilians from bombs.

> Not sure why you would consider October 7 an "insane horror" when the foreign invaders literally burned children alive in 1948 by throwing them into ovens, as happened in the Deir Yassin massacre. Or the rape camps of Tantura. There were 15,000 innocent civilians killed by the invaders when they started this war.

Interesting how you are totally fine with murder of civilians as long as they are the "right" kind of civilians.

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Post by jraby3 »

HaloZero wrote: post #677
coffinbirth wrote: post #494

> Iranian media now report 40 killed and 48 students injured following the strike on a girls’ elementary school in Minab, as rescue and recovery efforts continue. Congrats America!

Easy, it was Israel that probably did it and it's been shown time and time again that they can do this without political fallout under the guise that the target was a hiding spot for the military assets of Iran (or Hamas in the case of Palestine bombing).

It's been shown time and time again that the world will eat up any propaganda against Israel without waiting to hear any facts at all.

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Post by FireBeyond »

johanvts wrote: post #644
epolanski wrote: post #351

The president of peace btw. I'm baffled at the lack of calls to boycott the Fifa world cup in US. And at the double standards applied to Russians and Israelis in their wars of aggression. I guess Israel can play the "October 7th" card at least which was an insane horror.

Ukraine is a democracy with a legitimate leadership that was not planning to acquire nukes and has no history of planning to remove Russia from the map. To suggest that this attack on Iran is the same as the Russian invasion of Ukraine is very misguided.

Iran has been "a week away" from acquiring nukes since Netanyahu first claimed it in the 90s.

Not six months ago, Trump launched a strike that "completely obliterated" Iran's ability to obtain nukes. And then, either because he has the memory of a goldfish, or thinks that we do (both are somewhat true), he pulled out "a week away", again, at the SOTU. "We must attack Iran to destroy what I told you we destroyed last year."

Iran may be planning to do so. But this is just a boogeyman being used (again) by Israel and the US.

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Post by judahmeek »

Rover222 wrote: post #622

Iranians are celebrating, btw. This is what they have been dreaming of. This is their chance to finally take their country back, and I think they'll do it. I can't think of a better use of US military power in the world than to take out this terrible regime and let the Iranians do the rest. This isn't Iraq or Venezuela. People saying that we can't bomb our way into regime change apparently didn't follow the protests…

They didn't celebrate the last time Israel & the U.S. attacked them & they aren't celebrating now.

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/2026/01/trump-kham...

Successful regime change requires a far more significant investment in soft power than America & Israel's current right-wing leadership would even conceive of.

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Post by awnird »

ekianjo wrote: post #439
yodsanklai wrote: post #396

Nothing like a war to boost your popularity just before the elections

You sure? Seems like a war for no reason is hardly going to get popular support.

Americans are bloodthirsty freaks. Killing people is always popular with Americans.
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