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IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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> Don’t forget the “all they have to do is return the hostages” line Did the ceasefire not coincide with the return of the hostages? What am I missing?

Civilian deaths have continued https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-01-31/israel-strikes-gaza-h...

That article says 30 deaths of "people" not civilians and that the strikes targeted commanders.

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Is there an HN but for anarchists? Or maybe just anti-authoritarians?

There's 4chan but for leftists (leftypol) and there's reddit for leftists (lemmy or raddle). I'd also argue Mastodon is kind of twitter for leftists/hackers

Yeah but I want the tech slant as well. I guess something like Chaos Computer Club? Though I don’t know too much about them.

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The Atlantic? I kid. I really mean Al-Jazeera.

I think The Atlantic is actually pretty close to the mark. Committed, hardcore ideologues frequently turn out to be authoritarian, even if they refer to themselves as "anarchists". Most of these ideologues are busy administering ever more stringent purity tests to anyone they encounter lest someone in their vicinity commit wrongthink. There is a name for people who build coalitions through compromise and diplomacy, a…

During times of great strife, centrists are also known as “enablers”. Fence sitting only works until you realize that the Overton window has shifted a field away from the fence on which you’ve been sitting.

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Full report: https://content.forensic-architecture.org/wp-content/uploads...

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> That the anti-Israelis are going to latch on it as proof that Israel is evil is an unfortunate side effect.

Defenders of Israel always try to put a label on us: anti-Semites, anti-Iaraelis etc. You are trying to make it seem like this was some kind of isolated incident, an unfortunate consequence of the war. It wasn't: Gaza is in ruins, Israel continues ethnic cleansing in West Bank all while gaslighting everyone who opposes it. Israel is evil.

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You forgot eighty years of occupation, cultural , economical and ethnical cleansing of the local indigenous people called Palestinians with help of US and Western countries mainly.

Arabs are not indigenous to Palestine. Palestine was Roman when it was colonized by the Arabs. Before Palestine, Judea was a Jewish state which was colonized by the Romans.

You think you are a smart alec

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We should stop using this term terror/terrorist, it's lost any meaning. If Hamas are terrorists because they're terrorizing Israeli population then so are Israelis' IDF or whatever force kills other country's population. And the list extends beyond that. To paint a resisting force/army as terrorists is just charged language to emotionally manipulate and pollute discourse. It would be more useful to put in balance wha…

Terrorism has a simple definition: using force against civilian life to further ones goals. Target a music festival with no military value: terrorism. Blow up a building because hamas has a tunnel under there: not terrorism. If the military value gained is disproportionate to the civilian cost, it is a war crime. But still not terrorism.

Israelis brag about inflicting casualties on Gaza civilians and when confronted about it say that this will stop when Hamas releases the hostages and lays down the arms. This is textbook terrorism.

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I would like to know: is there even a single person here, who actually changed his opinion regarding this whole matter upon seeing this report? Not confirmed anything, but actually was forced to re-evaluate his opinion. Like, previously you thought that IDF are good guys, and all Israel does is justified self-defense measures, and now you see this as genocide of Palestinians? Of course, I assume, the answer is — no o…

This is a kind of inverted-retrograde of the Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect.

Gell-Mann: 1) disbelieve a bogus story, then 2) turn the page and blithely believe the next story

You: 1) believe bona fide investigative journalism, then 0) ask what the point of journalism even is.

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I remember when folks here were shilling the "Israel promises they'd never bomb a hospital" and "Hamas is lying about the death toll" lines. All the hospitals are now rubble, and the IDF quietly let it slip that the death toll is legit recently. https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2026-01-29/ty-article/.p... There's damning video of this specific incident, recovered from the dead. I suspect subsequent massacres made…

I don't know why you're using the past tense here, I was still trying to talk some sense into these people barely two days ago. It's hopeless at this point.

> I was still trying to talk some sense into these people barely two days ago. It's hopeless at this point.

I don't think "sense" is the issue.

1) Are you sure you were talking to actual people and not fake personas or even bots?

2) Keep in mind that there is A LOT of money to be made working for Israeli PR. Some people will take that money regardless of what they know is the actual truth. Some examples:

- Certain social media influencers being paid up to $7000 per post [1]

- Israel boosts propaganda funding by $150m to sway global opinion against genocide [2] [3]

- "[...] a firm called Bridges Partners LLC has been hired to manage an influencer network under a project code-named the “Esther Project.” " [4]

[1] https://responsiblestatecraft.org/israel-influencers-netanya...

[2] https://www.middleeasteye.net/live-blog/live-blog-update/isr...

[3] https://jewishchronicle.timesofisrael.com/israel-has-spent-m...

[4] https://www.jta.org/2025/09/30/united-states/israels-secret-...

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