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Re: xAI joins SpaceX

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Post by storus »

gok wrote: post #45

> it is possible to put 500 to 1000 TW/year of AI satellites into deep space, meaningfully ascend the Kardashev scale and harness a non-trivial percentage of the Sun’s power We currently make around 1 TW of photovoltaic cells per year, globally. The proposal here is to launch that much to space every 9 hours, complete with attached computers, continuously, from the moon. edit: Also, this would capture a very trivial…

Doesn't this risk some unforeseen effects on Earth or the rest of the solar system at that scale? Disruption of magnetic shield, some not yet known law of physics suddenly getting felt etc.?

Re: xAI joins SpaceX

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Post by stingraycharles »

mmoustafa wrote: post #88

> "The only logical solution therefore is to transport these resource-intensive efforts to a location with vast power and space. I mean, space is called 'space' for a reason. [crying laughing emoji]" This is all the reasoning provided. It is quite sad how a company I admired so much has become embroiled in financial doohickery.

It’s not SpaceX’s fault. It’s still a company to admire, it’s just that nobody appears to be able to stop Musk.

I wonder why SpaceX investors aren’t revolting.

Re: xAI joins SpaceX

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Post by breakyerself »

storus wrote: post #681
gok wrote: post #45

> it is possible to put 500 to 1000 TW/year of AI satellites into deep space, meaningfully ascend the Kardashev scale and harness a non-trivial percentage of the Sun’s power We currently make around 1 TW of photovoltaic cells per year, globally. The proposal here is to launch that much to space every 9 hours, complete with attached computers, continuously, from the moon. edit: Also, this would capture a very trivial…

Doesn't this risk some unforeseen effects on Earth or the rest of the solar system at that scale? Disruption of magnetic shield, some not yet known law of physics suddenly getting felt etc.?

It's not really going to happen so we don't have to worry about that.

Re: xAI joins SpaceX

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Post by [deleted] »

mmoustafa wrote: post #88

> "The only logical solution therefore is to transport these resource-intensive efforts to a location with vast power and space. I mean, space is called 'space' for a reason. [crying laughing emoji]" This is all the reasoning provided. It is quite sad how a company I admired so much has become embroiled in financial doohickery.

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Re: xAI joins SpaceX

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Post by frankdenbow »

tw04 wrote: post #515
reisse wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If elon were working for me, I would have fired him for having never delivered on any of his projects. Never? For the sheer amount of moonshot bets he's doing, his track record would make any VC jealous. Zip2, PayPal, Tesla, SpaceX, Grok/xAI.

>Zip2 I guess props to scamming Compaq into making a large investment that didn't pan out. He did personally make money so I guess win for him. >In an effort to woo investors, Elon Musk built a large casing around a standard computer to give the impression that Zip2 was powered by a supercomputer. >PayPal Huh? He didn't found Paypal, his company was acquired by Paypal. You might as well give him credit for eBay while…

Taking Tesla from where it was (an overpriced prototype) to what it is now did take some skill. He wasn't some passive investor who put money in and didn't do anything. The rest for sure he was gotten credit that isn't earned.

Re: xAI joins SpaceX

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Post by [deleted] »

jopsen wrote: post #57

> In the long term, space-based AI is obviously the only way to scale. I never questioned it. Space is also extremely cold, and if it's as dense as Musk cooling won't be an issue.

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Re: xAI joins SpaceX

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Post by torlok »

Elon didn't want to get outshined after Sam Altman suggested that "maybe we build a big Dyson sphere around the solar system". When will people realize that these "geniuses" are only good at making money, and any benefit to society is coincidental.

Re: xAI joins SpaceX

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Post by 999900000999 »

n_u wrote: post #463

A former NASA engineer with a PhD in space electronics who later worked at Google for 10 years wrote an article about why datacenters in space are very technically challenging: https://taranis.ie/datacenters-in-space-are-a-terrible-horri... I don't have any specialized knowledge of the physics but I saw an article suggesting the real reason for the push to build them in space is to hedge against political pushback pr…

It's much easier to find a country or jurisdiction that doesn't care about a bunch of data centers vs launching them into space.

I don't get why we aren't building mixed use buildings, maybe the first floor can be retail and restaurants, the next two floors can be data centers, and then above that apartments.

Re: xAI joins SpaceX

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Post by jitl »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #678
n_u wrote: post #463

A former NASA engineer with a PhD in space electronics who later worked at Google for 10 years wrote an article about why datacenters in space are very technically challenging: https://taranis.ie/datacenters-in-space-are-a-terrible-horri... I don't have any specialized knowledge of the physics but I saw an article suggesting the real reason for the push to build them in space is to hedge against political pushback pr…

> A former NASA engineer with a PhD in space electronics who later worked at Google for 10 years wrote an article about why datacenters in space are very technically challenging It's curious that we live in a world in which I think the majority of people somehow think this ISN'T complicated. Like, have we long since reached the point where technology is suitably advanced to average people that it seems like magic, wh…

you can’t tell me the microwave isn’t magic. it’s magic.
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