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Heathrow scraps liquid container limit

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Re: Heathrow scraps liquid container limit

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Post by fc417fc802 »

labcomputer wrote: post #595
traceroute66 wrote: post #577

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the purpose of the form is to generate convictions for lying on the form. Yeah but if the immigration officer has reason to question you about those sections of the form then surely they have more than enough evidence of the underlying crime anyway ?

No they’re playing the long game. It’s for if they need to deport (and/or jail) you later. Lying on a customs form is a valid reason to revoke a visa, and it’s an open and shut case.

Is traveling to the US for the purpose of engaging in espionage not also a valid reason to revoke a visa?

Re: Heathrow scraps liquid container limit

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Post by nerdsniper »

marcosdumay wrote: post #630
stronglikedan wrote: post #604

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If I were him, I'd have let you bribe me with a zongzi. Those look delicious!

I know it's a joke, and they probably get only a tiny minority of cases... but the Chinese government makes a huge show of executing people that do stuff like this.

> the Chinese government makes a huge theater of execution people that do stuff like this.

This sentence has a critical grammatical error, but I can't figure out what it was supposed to say.

Re: Heathrow scraps liquid container limit

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Post by Ylpertnodi »

purpleidea wrote: post #133

Heathrow is still a bullshit airport: 1) Bodyscanners: body scanners are a scam 2) They took away my 100ml contain that clearly had less than 1 cm of liquid in it because it wasn't clearly labelled as "100ml". Any idiot could know it was like 10ml full. 3) They used to do actual xray basically on people. 4) You have to re-security to transfer on connections! You already could have blown up the incoming plane, why doe…

> Heathrow is still a bullshit airport:

Heathrow has the best Guinness+ in the world - those pumps just don't stop.

* if you don't like Guinness, DON'T try it if you've already had a different beer/ ale (whatever). Try it before anything else or it's worse than the very devil spitting on your buds (!).

Re: Heathrow scraps liquid container limit

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Post by asielen »

nerdsniper wrote: post #682
marcosdumay wrote: post #630

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know it's a joke, and they probably get only a tiny minority of cases... but the Chinese government makes a huge show of executing people that do stuff like this.

> the Chinese government makes a huge theater of execution people that do stuff like this. This sentence has a critical grammatical error, but I can't figure out what it was supposed to say.

Execution should be executing

Also not sure about the usage of theater there. I'd probably swap it out for "show". Never heard theater used like that although it is pretty close to a standard idiom, "to make a show of something".

Re: Heathrow scraps liquid container limit

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Post by marcosdumay »

asielen wrote: post #685
nerdsniper wrote: post #682

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the Chinese government makes a huge theater of execution people that do stuff like this. This sentence has a critical grammatical error, but I can't figure out what it was supposed to say.

Execution should be executing Also not sure about the usage of theater there. I'd probably swap it out for "show". Never heard theater used like that although it is pretty close to a standard idiom, "to make a show of something".

Thanks, changed both.

Re: Heathrow scraps liquid container limit

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Post by schaefer »

CGMthrowaway wrote: post #642
schaefer wrote: post #625

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> It's all security theater. It’s so much worse than that. Because the department of homeland security was formed in the panic following 911, many of the laws meant to protect our civil liberties (which have existed decades/centuries before the DHS was formed) haven’t been amended to explicitly apply to DHS staff as well. So what ICE is doing right now could only happen with the loopholes that apply only to DHS staff…

Can you be more specific? I have no idea what you're talking about re loopholes, DHS staff exclusions, etc.

Sure. I am not a lawyer, but I can give one example to the best of my ability.

One Civil liberty I see Ice violating is the Fourth Amendment which protects against unreasonable search and seizure. But, for Boarder Patrol (under the Department of Homeland Security) there is a border search exception to the forth amendment. Border patrol can conduct searches without a warrant or reasonable suspicion.

You might be on the fence about that. We do have to protect our boarders... sure. but the way the law is written, this border exception is applicable anywhere 100 miles from the border.

That area covers 2/3rds of the population of the United States. --

So if you are wanting a power grab against your own citizens you would definitely try to use that loophole in creative ways. And that starts by using DHS staff that can claim their actions fall under the border search exception.

This write up is a little off the cuff, so the details might be loose, but I hope this demonstrates the rough outline.

Re: Heathrow scraps liquid container limit

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Post by Ylpertnodi »

teiferer wrote: post #338
jandrewrogers wrote: post #71

This just adds confusion as to the purpose of all this. The motivation behind the liquid limits is that there are extremely powerful explosives that are stable water-like liquids. Average people have never heard of them because they aren’t in popular lore. There has never been an industrial or military use, solids are simpler. Nonetheless, these explosives are easily accessible to a knowledgeable chemist like me. The…

And yet .. nothing ever seems to happen! Even though it's so easy. That means one of at least two things. Either the terrorists are stupid and easily impressed by the security theater. Or there are just not that many bad ombres out there trying to take down airplanes. Or something else I can't think of. Any thoughts?

Drones.

Re: Heathrow scraps liquid container limit

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Post by mattkrause »

lesuorac wrote: post #466
bleepblap wrote: post #136

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It wasn't -- was just noting that people keep saying "MRI", when there's no 5T fields around most security checkpoints

Isn't the world of MRIs moving towards lower teslas instead of higher?

Research is going up; clinical is going down.

The idea behind the recent boom in low-field stuff is that you'd like to have small/cheap machines that can be everywhere and produce good-enough images through smarts (algorithms, design) rather than brute force.

The attitude on the research side is essentially "por qué no los dos?" Crank up the field strength AND use better algorithms, in the hopes of expanding what you can study.

Re: Heathrow scraps liquid container limit

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Post by direwolf20 »

pc86 wrote: post #666
direwolf20 wrote: post #593

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you are not charged to be at the baggage claim

If you can find a way to utilize the baggage claim services without paying someone at some point I'd love to hear it. Just because you're not handing someone your card as you walk up to it doesn't mean you're not paying for it.

nevertheless you are not charged to be at the baggage claim. You can stand there as long as you want to, and your bank balance doesn't decrease.
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