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Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by mlrtime »

themusicgod1 wrote: post #649
varenc wrote: post #256

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spotify is $12/month at most to get unlimited ad-free access to virtually all music. To get access to "all" TV content legally would be hundreds of dollars a month. And for many movies you must buy/rent each individually. And legal TV and movies are much more encumbered by DRM and lock in, limiting the way you can view them. (like many streaming apps removing AirPlay support, or limiting you to 720p in some browsers)…

> Spotify is $12/month at most to get unlimited ad-free access to virtually all music. Until they decide to silence the artist you want to listen to because emperor god trump decides to unperson them. Putting what music you listen to in the hands of a US corporation is such a dangerously stupid idea that it is amazing to me that there are people here who are OK with it. >I think Spotify wins over pirating because of…

Godwins Law recreated, the new version is Trump.

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by lkramer »

troupo wrote: post #200
lkramer wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which is how Spotify started... And is still carrying on. So nothing has changed.

Spotify pays 70% of revenue to rights holders . Why don't you ask them where the money inteded for artists is going? You know? The small insignificant companies of Sony, Warner Music, EMI that own the vast majority of music and own all the contracts?

They have also arbitrarily decided not to pay out if you fall below a certain threshold, which hits smaller artists as well. Of course part of the problem is that the pay out is so low, so if you don't have millions of streams it's not worth it.

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by 47282847 »

xandrius wrote: post #494
47282847 wrote: post #156

Hmmm I don’t like this. There are sources for music with better quality out there and all this will do is paint them a bigger target for takedowns/prosecution. I am worried about losing their ebook library. Quoting from the announcement: “Generally speaking, music is already fairly well preserved.“ They should have done this as a separate identity.

The main difference is that people can re-host and seed part of the data by offering space in their own servers. If AA goes down, it's not the end of it all, a new one comes back up and the seeders are still there.

A lot of the ebook data has very few seeders, and it very much looks like they may all be AA. I assume it is a handful of people who this all relies on. I doubt there are many complete mirrors, if any. And even if there are, who of those are not only willing to seed but also run and redo all of the necessary infrastructure when shit hits the fan. As far as I can see, there is currently only one place left to actually contribute and upload material. The torrent music scene is a number of multitudes larger than that.

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by OKRainbowKid »

justatdotin wrote: post #680
OKRainbowKid wrote: post #678

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Practically nobody "likes" war. However, when facing adversaries like Putin who don't care for democracy, human life, human rights, agreements and contracts, who have no conviction beyond "might makes right", not ensuring clearly superior military capabilities ultimately means submitting to their plans of domination. Reflexively rejecting any kind of military investment is naïve and plays into the hands of the likes…

yes you've got me, I'm a russian agent trying to fool you into questioning the arms trade. was it the accent?

I did not mean to imply that at all.

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by aftbit »

Has anyone tried to add up the track file size from the metadata dump?

In spotify_clean_track_files.sqlite3:

    SELECT count(*), sum(filesize_bytes) FROM track_files;

    255966403|15970064861274
That's only 14.5 TiB, nowhere near 300 TiB. What makes up the other 285 TiB of content?

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by baxuz »

> The quality is the original OGG Vorbis at 160kbit/s.

Yeah, the original quality is either a 320kbps OGG or lossless. Not 160.

While this is _a_ backup, it's a pretty lossy one.

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by squigz »

aftbit wrote: post #687

Has anyone tried to add up the track file size from the metadata dump? In spotify_clean_track_files.sqlite3: SELECT count(*), sum(filesize_bytes) FROM track_files; 255966403|15970064861274 That's only 14.5 TiB, nowhere near 300 TiB. What makes up the other 285 TiB of content?

That's curious and changes things pretty dramatically. It's a lot easier to host 15TB than 300. I wonder what's up here.
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