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Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by unsungNovelty »

zamadatix wrote: post #567
array_key_first wrote: post #539

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In all of these cases, 95% of the comments are by I wouldn't be surprised if 'lame' things like "videos look a lot more vivid in Chrome" (due to the years of lag getting HDR support in Mac/Windows) lost Firefox more users than they gained for maintaining support for MV3 uBO. I.e. fewer than 10% of FF installs have uBO installed, even after Chrome dropped it, but the volume of comments about MV3 would have led you to…

I am sorry sir. Somebody who says they want to put back control to people using Internet and someone saying humans over profit cant NOT expect pushback for their actions. They are going against the entire community. You cant go for the saviour of the open internet, BS the community and not get push back.

I would argue mozilla doesnt have general audience like google chrome. They have OSS enthusiasts, privacy enthusiasts, power users kind of crowd. Buying a behavioural ads company which will do data surveillance or shoving ai is not what we want.

Not to mention, I and many stuck with Firefox despite being it being horrible until quantum release because Mozilla was aligned with community. But their tech is better now but they aren't aligned with community.

It was the community that made Firefox overtake IE. They seem to forget that.

Unless its gonna come pre-installed like chrome, they need community make the user base grow. They are absolutely dumb for going after a crowd who are happy with Chrome while shitting on the crowd which want to be with them.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by pseudalopex »

ethbr1 wrote: post #629
pseudalopex wrote: post #485

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What would be Mozilla's revenue model for instant messaging?

Ads? Nothing says you have to track users, if you're not looking to optimize ad monetization per user. And I daresay there are a fair number of companies who would love to get even blind exposure to Mozilla's userbase.

Why would people use Mozilla's app and not WhatsApp, iMessage, Signal, or others?

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Post by wtallis »

glenstein wrote: post #543
Teever wrote: post #535

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> "...if they had seen Mozilla making the financial moves that would have made it an independent and self-sufficient entity." Does their endowment fund enable them to be an independent and self-sufficient entity? In other words, Can they live off it in perpetuity?

Let's start with the acknowledgement of carouseling.

There's nothing to acknowledge. You're asking everyone to accept the presumption embedded in the statement that a billion dollars "goes away quickly when you're a large company paying lots of money to salaries", namely that Mozilla should be a large company and should rely on a steady stream of outside money instead of seeking sustainable financial independence. But Mozilla's lack of focus and excessive spending on side projects is a major part of the complaints against Mozilla, and you aren't even trying to make a reasonable case that Mozilla needs to be spending money like that.

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Post by Affric »

amluto wrote: post #677
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Fully agree with this. - Mozilla SSL Certs - for corporations that don't want Let's Encrypt - Mozilla Mail - a reliable Exchange/Google Mail alternative (desperately needed imo) - Thunderbird for iOS - why is this not a thing yet? - Mozilla Search - metasearch that isn't based on Bing/DDG/Google - Mozilla HTTPS DNS - although Cloudflare will probably always do this better All seemingly low-hanging fruit with brand al…

How about: Mozilla HTTPS To My Router (or printer or any other physically present local object) in a way that does not utterly suck? Seriously, there’s a major security and usability problem, it affects individual users and corporations, and neither Google nor Apple nor Microsoft shows the slightest inclination to do anything about it, and Mozilla controls a browser that could add a nice solution. I bet one could eve…

Apple mail steadfastly refusing to permit me to see an email address so I can verify the source of an email.

Truly the most cursed.

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Post by madeofpalk »

kbelder wrote: post #283
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Queer people aren't causes, they're people. Imagine I worked on the Brave browser, and in my personal time maintained a website aimed at discouraging personal relationships with him. This would probably make me difficult to work with, despite my personal views not impacting the quality of my work. You might say these examples aren't one-to-one, and you're right. My example doesn't actually push any legislation forbid…

If you were on a hiring committee, and your otherwise-qualified-candidate had a political opinion you objected to in this way, perhaps with a similar donation, would you refuse to hire them?

Depends what you mean by “political opinion”.

If it’s about government fiscal policy, probably not. If it’s more along the lines of discriminating against or undermining people’s rights, then yeah I would refuse to hire them.

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Post by [deleted] »

losvedir wrote: post #113
lalaland1125 wrote: post #67

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It's not really possible to do that when the opposing beliefs are so fundamental. Mozilla had, and has, a lot of LGBT staff. How could you expect those staff to work under and trust a CEO opposed to their very existence as equal members of society?

> It's not really possible to do that when the opposing beliefs are so fundamental. Sure it is. I've lived and worked in the Middle East and in China. People do it all the time.

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Post by plorg »

wtallis wrote: post #615
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I just never used Pocket. I don’t think I had to change my habits or settings to do so.

Sure, living with the nuisance of the advertising and UI clutter is an option, as I said. But the fact that they were relatively minor nuisances compared to eg. Windows 11's BS doesn't change the fact that they were still unwelcome and unnecessary and disrespectful. I don't think there's anything radical about my stance that a new toolbar button showing up—with advertising calling attention to it—integrating a propri…

I found it unnecessary and annoying, but there was a toggle for it in the settings, it wasn't even hard to find.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by unsungNovelty »

Copying portion of the comment I said under another comment:

I and many stuck with Firefox despite being it being horrible until quantum release because Mozilla was aligned with community. But their tech is better now but they aren't aligned with community.

It was the community that made Firefox overtake IE. They seem to forget that.

Unless its gonna come pre-installed like chrome, they need community make the user base grow. They are absolutely dumb for going after a crowd who are happy with Chrome while shitting on the crowd which want to be with them.

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Post by rolph »

rdm_blackhole wrote: post #369
rolph wrote: post #236

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>what is the alternative funding source that could keep a company making a free browser running? i wonder how linux does it? linus and anthony should have a head to head.

I think you are comparing apples to oranges here. Linux is made of many distros, each one with their own strong points and features. Many different maintainers matain them. There is no single point of funding for them. Mozilla on the other hand makes basically one semi well-known product (and other even less known stuff) and gives it away for free. If tomorrow Google pulls the plug, who will pay for the salaries of t…

1) Linux is made of many distros, each one with their own strong points and features. Many different maintainers matain them. There is no single point of funding for them.

2) Mozilla on the other hand makes basically one semi well-known product.

the way i see it mozilla has one thing to do, and didnt do it very well.

the linux GNU gang has a mountain to contend with and has has moved a mountain.

so what would be the secret sauce that mozilla doesnt have.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by Klonoar »

Fiveplus wrote: post #7

Does anyone else feel like the "Trust" angle is the only card they have left to play? Technically, Chrome is faster on JS benchmarks. Edge has better OS integration on Windows and comes by default. Safari wins on battery life on Mac. Firefox's only unique selling point is "We aren't a massive data vampire." If they clutter the browser with AI which inherently requires data processing, often in the cloud, they dilute…

They also still lack significant security improvements that Chrome has.
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