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Well it's a helluva lot faster to make for one. For two, just about everyone knows how to navigate in vscode by now. Reducing the barrier of entry has obvious advantages.
I have Cursor at work. The only element of the interface I'm using (and know how to use) is the chat window. IMO, it's an absolutely crappy IDE, crappy editor, with absolutely incomprehensible hostile UI. I have almost two decades of experience with Vim, Emacs and IntelliJ. FWIW, I was able to easily find my ways in helix, kakoune and Zed.
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VS Code is technically an Electron app, but it's not the usual lazy resource hog implementation like Slack or something. A lot of work went into making it fast. I doubt you'll find many non-Electron full IDEs that are faster. Look at Visual Studio, that's using a nice native framework and it runs at the speed of fossilized molasses.
> many non-Electron full IDEs VSCode has even less features than Emacs, OOTB. Complaining about full IDEs slowness is fully irrelevant here. Full IDEs provide an end to end experience in implementing a project. Whatever you need, it's there. I think the only plugins I've installed on Jetbrains's ones is IdeaVim and I've never needed something else for XCode. It's like complaining about a factory's assembly line, sayi…
> the only plugins I've installed on Jetbrains's ones
By default, JetBrains' IntelliJ-based IDEs have a huge number of plug-ins installed. If you upgrade from Community Edition to a paid license, the number only increases. Your comment is slightly misleading to me.Re: Google Antigravity
#683I went ahead and downloaded it, it looks to be a VSCode fork very similar to Cursor, with support for the following models: - Gemini 3 Pro (High) - Gemini 3 Pro (Low) - Claude Sonnet 4.5 - Claude Sonnet 4.5 (Thinking) - GPT-OSS 120B (Medium)
> VSCode Which is on top of 'Chrome'. Interesting sandwich: Google-Microsoft-Google.
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I wouldn't bet on an Electron app winning anything long-term in the dev-oriented space.
What other UI framework looks as good on Windows, Mac and Linux?
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- don't learn from what you tell them We'll fix that, eventually. - don't have career growth that you can feel good about having contributed to Humans are on the verge of building machines that are smarter than we are. I feel pretty goddamned awesome about that. It's what we're supposed to be doing. - don't have a genuine interest in accomplishment or team goals Easy to train for, if it turns out to be necessary. I'd…
> We'll fix that, eventually. > Humans are on the verge of building machines that are smarter than we are. You're not describing a system that exists. You're describing a system that might exist in some sci-fi fantasy future. You might as well be saying "there's no point learning to code because soon the rapture will come".
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- don't learn from what you tell them We'll fix that, eventually. - don't have career growth that you can feel good about having contributed to Humans are on the verge of building machines that are smarter than we are. I feel pretty goddamned awesome about that. It's what we're supposed to be doing. - don't have a genuine interest in accomplishment or team goals Easy to train for, if it turns out to be necessary. I'd…
> Humans are on the verge of building machines that are smarter than we are. I feel pretty goddamned awesome about that. It's what we're supposed to be doing. It's also the premise of The Matrix. I feel pretty goddamned uneasy about that.
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I wouldn't bet on an Electron app winning anything long-term in the dev-oriented space.
VS Code is technically an Electron app, but it's not the usual lazy resource hog implementation like Slack or something. A lot of work went into making it fast. I doubt you'll find many non-Electron full IDEs that are faster. Look at Visual Studio, that's using a nice native framework and it runs at the speed of fossilized molasses.
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#689Why is scrolling modified on this page? I how to disable it?
Google likes to fuck with basic browser functionality for some reason. Scrolling, sometimes also how “click” intents through touch are triggered (that is, using js listeners for touch events instead of watching for the browser to communicate a “click” on an element; this does usability-killing shit like make a touch-to-stop-scrolling get interpreted as a click on whatever happens to be under your finger). I have no i…
Apple is the worst offender here. Their product pages are always sluggish.
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I believe our definitions of "winning the IDE wars" are very, very different. For one thing, using "user count" as a metric for this like using "number of lines of code added" in a performance review. And even if that was part of the metric, people who use and don't absolutely fall in love with it, so much so that they become the ones advocating for its use, are only worth a tiny fraction of a "user". neovim won the…
> I don't know what IntelliJ is. It started as a modernized Eclipse competitor (the Java IDE) but they've built a bunch of other IDEs based on it. Idk if it still runs on Java or not, but it had potential last I used it about a decade ago. But running GUI apps on the JVM isn't the best for 1000 reasons, so I hope they've moved off it.
> But running GUI apps on the JVM isn't the best for 1000 reasons, so I hope they've moved off it.
What would you recommend instead of Swing on JVM? Since you have "1000 reasons", it should easy to list a few here. As a friendly reminder, they would need to port (probably) millions of lines of Java source code to whatever framework/language you select. The only practical alternative I can think of would be C++ & Qt, but the development speed would be so much slower than Java & Swing.Also, with the advent of wildly modern JVMs (11+), the JIT process is so insanely good now. Why cannot a GUI be written in Swing and run on the JVM?