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Re: iPhone Air

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Post by zumu »

aurareturn wrote: post #58

It has A19 Pro. A19 Pro has matmul acceleration in its GPU, the equivalent of Nvidia's Tensor cores. This would make future Macs extremely viable for local LLMs. Currently, Macs have high memory bandwidth and high VRAM capacity but low prompt processing speeds. Give it a large context and it'll take forever before the first token is generated. If the M5 generation gets this GPU upgrade, which I don't see why not, the…

> the bold sexy orange color of the iPhone 17 Pro

The color line up reminds me of the au MEDIA SKIN phones (Japanese carrier) circa 2007. Maybe it's because I had one back in the day, but I can't help but think they took some influence.

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by BadOakOx »

runjake wrote: post #257
creer wrote: post #167

"Impossibly thin" is right in line with Patrick McGee's "Apple in China" who argues that the main reason for Apple's designs is to keep imitators at bay by introducing manufacturing challenges that only they can meet. Indeed impossible at the time of release. One generation after the other. He estimates this gains them about 6 months of headway. Tough world. (Yes, to be fair, there is more to this new phone than just…

The Samsung S25 Edge, which has already been on the market for a while, seems to be pretty popular. It's 0.16mm thicker than the Air. I've got to admit it was surprisingly pleasant to hold. I even did a low key bend test and it did not bend, but I literally had store security walk up to me and ask me not to do that. https://www.samsung.com/us/smartphones/galaxy-s25-edge/

A proper bend test from jerryrigeverything:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yQHFCpO6gHE

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by nexus7556 »

thund wrote: post #680

Around 2000-2005 there was a race for the smallest phone with ludicrously small displays. I believe Nokia was kind of leading and “winning” the race. Then blackberry and iPhone reversed trajectory and suddenly bigger was better, and Nokia died out. I think we are on the same path here, thinner is not what I want. I want a powerhouse that can run AI for at least 48 hours on the worst conditions, a week at least in an…

Well both of the Pro models increased their battery life. Apple isn't going just one way.

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by beefnugs »

manacit wrote: post #471
ManBeardPc wrote: post #328

I want an extra thick model instead, let’s call it iPhone Travel (or Ultra?). Just thick enough so the cameras are no longer sticking out. Give me an all-week battery instead of an all-day one. Slim down the power usage and give a power saver mode that actually does make a difference. Let me go on a weekend trip in nature or festival without having to carry extra hardware or having to look for public charging station…

Personally, I really like being able to use lightweight MagSafe batteries instead of having a thicker iPhone. I used to agree with you, but the tech has gotten ridiculously good the last couple of years. With something like https://www.apple.com/shop/product/HRY02LL/A/anker-maggo-pow... , you get a magsafe battery that doubles the life of an iPhone and can be independently recharged, and is so slim that I can put it…

Do you carry these extra batteries? Or leave them in a hot car?

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by causasui »

dan353hehe wrote: post #273
Nition wrote: post #249

It's more the other two dimensions that I want shrunk. Did anyone think their phone was too thick to fit in their pocket?

No kidding. I just want one that I can use one handed again. I’m on the IPhone SE, have hands that can play an octave + 2 additional keys on a piano, and I can’t reach the whole screen with a single hand. I’m probably just holding it wrong.

Totally agree. Apply can pry my iPhone SE 3 from my cold dead hands.

The perfect form factor. Touch ID instead of Face ID. It's the absolute pinnacle of the iPhone models, based on the iPhone 6.

I don't understand why I can't just have this same phone with a slightly better camera. That's all I want.

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by hotstickyballs »

AdventureMouse wrote: post #582
aurareturn wrote: post #58

It has A19 Pro. A19 Pro has matmul acceleration in its GPU, the equivalent of Nvidia's Tensor cores. This would make future Macs extremely viable for local LLMs. Currently, Macs have high memory bandwidth and high VRAM capacity but low prompt processing speeds. Give it a large context and it'll take forever before the first token is generated. If the M5 generation gets this GPU upgrade, which I don't see why not, the…

> If the M5 generation gets this GPU upgrade, which I don't see why not, then the era of viable local LLM inferencing is upon us. I don't think local LLMs will ever be a thing except for very specific use cases. Servers will always have way more compute power than edge nodes. As server power increases, people will expect more and more of the LLMs and edge node compute will stay irrelevant since their relative power w…

If compute power is the deciding factor server vs edge discussion then we’d never have smartphones.

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by mastazi »

thund wrote: post #680

Around 2000-2005 there was a race for the smallest phone with ludicrously small displays. I believe Nokia was kind of leading and “winning” the race. Then blackberry and iPhone reversed trajectory and suddenly bigger was better, and Nokia died out. I think we are on the same path here, thinner is not what I want. I want a powerhouse that can run AI for at least 48 hours on the worst conditions, a week at least in an…

My memory is from around 1998-1999 when I did some research to buy my first phone. From memory, I think that at that point Ericsson was winning that race in the more affordable end of the market, with models that I remember being smaller than Nokia models from the same time, such as:

* https://www.gsmarena.com/ericsson_pf_768-108.php

* https://www.gsmarena.com/ericsson_t10s-115.php

* https://www.gsmarena.com/ericsson_gf_788e-110.php

And Motorola had the smallest/lightest phones at the premium end of the market, with the StarTAC line.

* https://www.gsmarena.com/ericsson_gf_788e-110.php

* https://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_startac_85-74.php

In the end I realised that size was not the most important factor for me so instead I got a Motorola 8700 [1] which I didn't enjoy using, then sold it shortly after to get a Nokia 5110 [2] which I liked very much.

[1] https://collection.sciencemuseumgroup.org.uk/objects/co80944...

[2] https://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_5110-7.php

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