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Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by monkeyelite »

andybak wrote: post #207
gowld wrote: post #142

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Logical analysis, like using folders and file APIs, is "left-brained".

The left/right brain thing is pseudo-science and even worse - a false dichotomy. It's much more about cultural snobbery and cultural tribalism around which pursuits are regarded as "more worthy". Look up C.P. Snow's "The Two Cultures" - it was incredibly influential at the time but also described a prejudice we still labour under. It's pervasive in the English speaking world. I suspect less so in the non-anglosphere…

> The left/right brain thing is pseudo-science

It's real in terms of consciousness - brains switch between modes depending on activity. You can try it and feel the switch yourself. Whether that switch is localized, or whether people have more affinity for one than the other is probably what's fake.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by monkeyelite »

mg wrote: post #94

The people at Google seem to think much more like me than the people at Apple. There are 3 primary decisions Google made that click with me, while Apple's choices are a mystery to me: 1: When I put a Pixel on a table, it sits there stable. Because the backside is symmetrical. When I put an iPhone on a table, it wobbles. 2: When I sort my photos on a Pixel, I sort them in folders. The "camera" folder is where the unso…

I never want to sort photos in folders.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by TylerE »

StopDisinfo910 wrote: post #561
TylerE wrote: post #522

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No android device I've ever used has a stable ANYTHING performance-wise.

Happy to know which one you have used then because all the ones I have used in the past from Google, OnePlus and Xiaomi have been rock solid. It’s simple my current iPhone 13 is the second worst phone I have ever owned after the 3S I had a decade before. It’s also the most expensive in a very Apple-like fashion. iOS is a sorry mess. It manages to be both annoyingly limited and awfully buggy.

Dozens going back to the original Motorola Droid.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by bcraven »

Tmpod wrote: post #603
daemonologist wrote: post #81

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I replaced my 4a (which is not particularly small) after Google nerfed the battery into oblivion, but every once in a while I get it out of its drawer and am always immediately struck by how much better the form factor is. Using a modern phone with a 6+ inch screen feels like trying to tie a knot with one hand.

Oh man, I'm still using my 4a and am quite afraid of what I'll do once it goes caput. There's essentially no real replacement. The S23/24 are kinda okay, but the custom ROM support is meh. Pixels are unbeatable in that regard... It's a shame

I went for an 8a in a compromise of weight and size Vs an-actually-modern-phone.

After 2 weeks I was completely comfortable with it.

Check gsmarena's 'Compare' tool to find what works for you.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by red369 »

Disparallel wrote: post #236
somewhatrandom9 wrote: post #167

The tech specs: https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_10_specs?hl=en-US Says it has vpn capabilities..But then there is a footnote: >12. Restrictions apply. Some data is not transmitted through VPN.... See https://g.co/pixel/vpn for details. Does anyone know what data doesn't go through the vpn? On the positive side it lists a 24+ hour battery life!! This is huge for me!! ..but it has a footnote, as well > 6. Bat…

The help section article lists # Data that isn’t protected by the VPN Not all network data from your device is protected by the VPN. Examples of data that aren’t protected by the VPN include: - Tethering traffic - This includes USB and Wi-Fi hotspot. - Push notifications - Wi-Fi calling and other IMS services - Work profile app traffic - This applies if a work profile is configured on your device. - Data traffic from…

I wonder why tethering traffic doesn't go through the VPN. I could be wrong, but I think it works the same way with iPhones.

I might test that later, but this (old) SE question seems to confirm my memory: https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/266871/is-there-a-...

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by ritcgab »

snypher wrote: post #556
iamdamian wrote: post #497

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> Could anyone here waxing lyrically about Apple so called privacy stand explain to me what that actually is apart from a marketing point Apple keeps repeating? The end-to-end encryption guarantees on this page seem pretty real to me and have little to do with marketing: https://support.apple.com/en-us/102651

Can any of this be verified or confirmed independently?

You just cannot prove a party doesn't own something.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by rossjudson »

no_wizard wrote: post #284
moelf wrote: post #173

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>Give me a Pixel & all the Google stuff but without Google https://grapheneos.org/

As a consumer, I lament most of all about Pixel devices (or any other Android device really) that I have to wipe the OS and install a different one to get features that matter to me, particularly around privacy. Thats why I don't use Pixel devices, or any Android devices really. I know its a precarious situation with Apple since they could reverse their stance at any point and sometimes they get it wrong, but they ha…

What privacy feature are you looking for that Pixels don't supply?

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by red369 »

bityard wrote: post #55

> Pixel 10, Pixel 10 Pro and Pixel 10 Pro XL are all available for preorder today starting at $799, $999 and $1199. Sigh, still not going to pay more for a phone than I paid for my computer. Also, what is up with that camera module? This doesn't look like it can physically slide into jeans pockets. At least round the corners or add little ramps. I guess this is what happens when design folk are allowed to trump engin…

I feel the same way about paying more for a phone than for a computer, but is it rational? I'm not sure. Sure you get a smaller screen and a smaller battery, and the phone doesn't have a keyboard and a trackpad (assuming you were referring to a laptop), but does the militarisation make up that difference?

Disclaimer: I'm not really invested in thinking about it carefully. I don't like any of the huge phones available now, and so far I'm getting by with the small phone I have, and buying into the idea of the Framework laptop either means I won't have to replace the whole thing or that I'll just go back to buying refurbished enterprise laptops.

Edit: I see other people have already picked up on the computer/phone cost thought more productively than I did! :)

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by red369 »

rchaud wrote: post #535
JoshTriplett wrote: post #83

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> This doesn't look like it can physically slide into jeans pockets. I'm interested to hear more about this, because it's always interesting to understand how other people interact with things who have different use cases or usage models. How tight are your jeans, and how do you fit anything else in your pocket if something ~1in thick doesn't fit comfortably (without having to force the pocket open in a way that woul…

I don't wear tight jeans and I've come to loathe having to put my phone in my pants pocket. If you're walking around a lot, the feeling is just annoying, you can feel it pressing on your leg the whole time. When I sit down, the bunching feeling is even worse, so I immediately put the phone on the table. This wasn't an issue when phones had 4.7"-5"-inch screens. Nowadays the phone goes into the cargo pocket if I'm wea…

I also do back pocket when walking, swap pockets when sitting down. Do you also worry that one day forgetting to switch will get you into a lot of trouble? :)

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by rossjudson »

x0x0 wrote: post #257
mg wrote: post #94

The people at Google seem to think much more like me than the people at Apple. There are 3 primary decisions Google made that click with me, while Apple's choices are a mystery to me: 1: When I put a Pixel on a table, it sits there stable. Because the backside is symmetrical. When I put an iPhone on a table, it wobbles. 2: When I sort my photos on a Pixel, I sort them in folders. The "camera" folder is where the unso…

A counterpoint: google intentionally broke the ability to backup photos in Google Photos. Yes, takeout sort of exists, but it doesn't work. If you sort pictures into albums, you get duplicates of each photo for every album. So one copy in the automatic year album; one copy for each album you have put a photo into. My 80gb of photos triples in size, and oh, sometimes downloads fail on the zips they put them into. And…

What do you think Photos should do instead?
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