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Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by vkou »

simianparrot wrote: post #474
mystraline wrote: post #373

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Chinese socialism is interesting and I think works quite well. Absolutely new stuff is basically unrestricted. Go build, have fun, make money. Intermediate stuff is partially state controlled, including cost, profits, pollution, and more. Essentials are effectively state owned, cost controlled, and 'very stable'. Also, the USSR was the first time it was tried. It succeeded some ways, but failed in others.

At the cost of the majority in rural areas living so far below what any modern country considers poverty that it’s hard to articulate. But sure. If you’re in Shenzhen or Shanghai it works «great». Until you step out of line ever so slightly.

China is getting people out of extreme rural poverty faster than any other country on Earth.

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Post by franktankbank »

ed_elliott_asc wrote: post #664
franktankbank wrote: post #519

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You are giving advice to some of the dumbest people in the country. I'm not saying its bad advice, but these people are universally stupid. I don't know exactly why things ended up this way, but I'd love to hear where this isn't a truth.

Don’t hold back with your opinions!

Haha, ya I wouldn't ever recommend anyone behave the way I behave.

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Post by XorNot »

WaxProlix wrote: post #660
goatlover wrote: post #602

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That's not true at all. Afghanistan was occupied for 20 years until the US decided to pull out, because nation building didn't work there. That's not a military failure.

Substitute Vietnam then, if the point makes you feel better.

Same story. The problem was the US wasn't going to invade the North, and China supplying the NVA added a long tail supply chain that wasnt being touched.

What you might do better to note is both of those conflicts consisted of the US invading someone else's home soil to effect change and being outlasted in terms of public interest - a public who at home were living peaceful, first world lifestyles.

Everyones little civil war fantasy is when the fight is happening on your home turf to start with.

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Post by detourdog »

akudha wrote: post #551
bee_rider wrote: post #540

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I think “what is an interface” would trip me up actually, haha. My thought process was: Well, most of the code I use uses a Reverse Communication Interface. But, I think these are pretty old-school projects, maybe I should start by talking about the Object Oriented interface to the library that we recently did. Or maybe I can talk about the file IO based interface that I did, it was extremely cursed but kind of funny…

It is not about not knowing some topic. I am myself an average programmer on my best day and I don't expect candidates to be genius level thinkers. It is the lying, the making stuff up on the spot - like what are they thinking? The blatant arrogance and callousness towards the person/people interviewing them. How hard can it be to say "I don't know" or "I don't use this concept in my daily tasks, but let me try to ex…

There is also small computer systems interface or SCSI.

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Post by johnnyanmac »

akudha wrote: post #422
Balgair wrote: post #89

I did one of these once. Once . I felt so bad afterwards that I swore them off forever. It's not like the 'interview' was terrible or anything. I knew it was AI from the start. It was just that when I got done with it, I realized that I had talked at a computer for ~45 minutes. And, yet again, I was going to be ghosted by the company (I was), and that I was never going to get those 45 minutes back. That was time I co…

I'd hate being interviewed by a bot. Talking to these stupid automated answering machines is bad enough. That said, the other side of the equation is also bad, for employers. I was asked to conduct some interviews recently. I asked the most basic of questions (like absolutely basic stuff, "what is an interface?" level basic). The number of people who said "I don't know" is far less than the number of people who tried…

If your filters still get you unqualified candidates, I'd start looking at your filters first. Job reqs are being driven sky high, but people who get called back are horror stories like this that fail fizz buzz. Seems like the only ones who make it though are 90% liars and 1% unicorns. And perhaps soke 4-5% that could do the job but were failed anyway.

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Post by yoz-y »

econnors wrote: post #548
bee_rider wrote: post #540

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I think “what is an interface” would trip me up actually, haha. My thought process was: Well, most of the code I use uses a Reverse Communication Interface. But, I think these are pretty old-school projects, maybe I should start by talking about the Object Oriented interface to the library that we recently did. Or maybe I can talk about the file IO based interface that I did, it was extremely cursed but kind of funny…

"Can you clarify what you mean by interface?" is the right answer

The point of that question is to see what the candidate will talk about. If they start talking about refraction so be it.

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Post by Jare »

econnors wrote: post #548
bee_rider wrote: post #540

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I think “what is an interface” would trip me up actually, haha. My thought process was: Well, most of the code I use uses a Reverse Communication Interface. But, I think these are pretty old-school projects, maybe I should start by talking about the Object Oriented interface to the library that we recently did. Or maybe I can talk about the file IO based interface that I did, it was extremely cursed but kind of funny…

"Can you clarify what you mean by interface?" is the right answer

If you're not a Junior and that's all you have to say without even attempting to approach the actual question, you would be raising a red flag with me. Maybe there are better ways to phrase that counter-question, but this one in particular made me twitch.

In my experience, outlining one or a few things you call interfaces would be a much better display of both knowledge and attitude: GUI, API, interface keyword or concept in some programming language, etc. Even better, add a quick description of what they all have in common ("broadly speaking, a way to access a set of functionality" or something like that).

And THEN you may ask "would you like me to elaborate on one meaning in particular?"

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Post by Jaygles »

rightbyte wrote: post #580
akudha wrote: post #422

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I'd hate being interviewed by a bot. Talking to these stupid automated answering machines is bad enough. That said, the other side of the equation is also bad, for employers. I was asked to conduct some interviews recently. I asked the most basic of questions (like absolutely basic stuff, "what is an interface?" level basic). The number of people who said "I don't know" is far less than the number of people who tried…

"what is an interface?" Heh. I had a brian freeze just reading that. That is not a basic question, just because the concept is fundamental.

In my opinion, a very generic question like that deserves a very generic answer, with a follow-up asking if that is what they had in mind.

"An interface is roughly how a system is designed to be interacted with. A web page can be an interface with your bank if they have online banking. An API can be an interface for a back-end service to provide to other back-end services. Did you have anything specific in mind?"

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Post by SupremumLimit »

JohnCClarke wrote: post #307

I tried one these to see how good it was, and whether I could use it for hiring. And it was the best recruiter interview I've ever had. I know, that says a lots about recruiters. It definitely feels odd talking to a machine. On the positive side it was clear, patient, and will evaluate everyone equally.

How can you assert that it will evaluate everyone equally when biases are a well documented deficiency of various flavours of AI?
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