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Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by yunohn »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #669
kelnos wrote: post #649

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I think this is just a bad analogy. I've definitely set Claude Code on a task and then wandered off to do something else, and come back an hour or so later to see if it's done. If I'd chosen to take a nap, would you say I'm "gaming the system"? That's silly. I'm using an LLM agent to free up my own time; it's up to me to decide what I do with that time.

No, this doesn't sound like gaming the system to me. However, if you were using a script to automatically queue up tasks so they can run as soon as your 5-hour-session expires to ensure you're using Claude 24/7, that's a different story. A project like this was posted to HN relatively recently. As I said, I have trouble believing this constitutes 5% of users, but it constitutes something and yeah, I feel Anthropic is…

They always have had a “soft” sessions limit per month anyway, so it still doesn’t make sense to limit weekly.

Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by Teknomadix »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #88

I'm probably not going to hit the weekly limit, but it makes me nervous that the limit is weekly as opposed to every 36 hours or something. If I do hit the limit, that's it for the entire week —a long time to be without a tool I've grown accustomed to! I feel like someone is going to reply that I'm too reliant on Claude or something. Maybe that's true, but I'd feel the same about the prospect of loosing ripgrep for a…

Speaking of ripgrep, adding `rg`, `fzf` and a few other tools to my Claude config seems to have been helpful in reducing token consumption and improving agents capabilities. I'm curious what other tools people are giving their agents instructions to use and what the experience is like?

Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by yunohn »

forty wrote: post #362
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #88

I'm probably not going to hit the weekly limit, but it makes me nervous that the limit is weekly as opposed to every 36 hours or something. If I do hit the limit, that's it for the entire week —a long time to be without a tool I've grown accustomed to! I feel like someone is going to reply that I'm too reliant on Claude or something. Maybe that's true, but I'd feel the same about the prospect of loosing ripgrep for a…

It makes me sad that devs start relying on proprietary online services to be able to work. We have been lucky enough to have FOSS tools to do everything and not to have to rely on any specific service or company to work and some of us are deciding to become like Monsanto-addicted farmers who forgot how to do their jobs without something they have to pay every month.

Huh? We’re discussing the equivalent of tradespeople who need a high quality drill to work instead of cheap knockoffs or worse, no tools.

Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by forty »

unsupp0rted wrote: post #659
forty wrote: post #556

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That's a good remark. As my sibling said, backend and web dev. But indeed it always struck me that some developpers decided to become Apple developpers and sacrifice 30% of everything they ever produce to Apple. I would argue that it might a bit different though, because when doing iOS development it's possible that you don't lose you core skill, which is building software, and that you can switch to another platform…

> and sacrifice 30% of everything they ever produce to Apple In exchange for 500% more paid users

The users would exist even if Apple did not exist wouldn't they?

Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by yunohn »

forty wrote: post #556
pythonguython wrote: post #472

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Do you mind sharing what industry you’re in where you can fully rely on FOSS? In my industry we’re dependent on MATLAB, Xilinx tools, closed source embedded software and more. To name a few industries: game devs might be stuck with unity, finance quant devs might be stuck with Bloomberg terminals, iOS app devs are stuck with apple’s tooling etc… this isn’t just an LLM problem IMO.

That's a good remark. As my sibling said, backend and web dev. But indeed it always struck me that some developpers decided to become Apple developpers and sacrifice 30% of everything they ever produce to Apple. I would argue that it might a bit different though, because when doing iOS development it's possible that you don't lose you core skill, which is building software, and that you can switch to another platform…

Android also charges a fee for Play Store distribution, as do most platforms - not just mobile app ones. The cost of doing business on a platform does not mean no one should do it - like literally all other businesses.

Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by landl0rd »

xpe wrote: post #363
landl0rd wrote: post #357

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You can tell how it’s intentional with both OpenAI and Anthropic by how they’re intentionally made opaque. I cant see a nice little bar with how much I’ve used versus have left on the given rate limits so it’s pressuring users to hoard. Because it prevents them from budgeting it out and saying “okay I’ve used 1/3 of my quota and it’s Wednesday, I can use more faster.”

> pressures users to hoard As a pedantic note, I would say 'ration'. Things you hoard don't magically go away after some period of time.

Rationing is precisely what we want to do: I have x usage this week; let me determine precisely how much I can use without going over. Hoarding implies a less reasoned path of “I never know when I might run out so I must use as little as possible, save as much as I can.” One can hoard gasoline but it still expires past a point.

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Post by jjmarr »

Tokumei-no-hito wrote: post #498
jjmarr wrote: post #318

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If VCs want to give me free money in exchange for using their product, do you expect me to say no?

of course not. the buffet said all you can eat, didn't it? i don't expect you to do anything less but engorge your body to the point of hospitalization while 95% of the remaining customers look in horror.

This happens all the time at American buffets. Morbidly obese people eat 20 cheeseburgers in one sitting. You should not be operating a buffet if you cannot handle customers like that.

Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by jjani »

foota wrote: post #547
jjani wrote: post #542

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Or go here: https://claude.ai/upgrade/max . What does it say on top, on the actual pricing page? Max plan 5x more usage than Pro $100.00/month + tax Save 50% 20x more usage than Pro $200.00/month + tax Especially with the "save 50%", if they're not actually offering 4x that of 5x, that's easily illegal false advertising in half the territories Anthropic's customers are located in.

I want to say again that I don't think their plan pricing is straightforward, but (at least when I was looking at it the other day) I came away with the (correct, imo) impression that the 5x and 20x were just marketing terms and I should take it with a grain of salt. I agree it's not literally what it sounds like. I think the disconnect here is that the 5x or 20x is true within a single session (and you'll see their…

I'm sorry but that's gaslighting in the face of literally being shown the payment page that shows otherwise. "5x more usage than Pro" and "20x more usage than Pro" cannot be reasonably interpreted in the way you're doing. It doesn't matter how much you preface it with "I don't think it's straightforward".

> clearly their legal team went over it with a fine tooth comb

If their legal team in fact did, they'll have said "yup, that payment page won't fly if you'd get sued in Germany/Australia/anywhere with remotely decent consumer protections" and Anthropic just decided to roll with it anyway as they did while breaking millions of websites' ToS, pirating half the world's books, academic papers and more. As the chance they'll actually get sued and receive meaningful punishment is negligible.

You're either incredibly naive, are doing similar things and justifying it, or have a personal stake in this. There's no other explanation. You can look at my comment history and see that I'm generally nice and don't comment in this manner, but you're leaving no other option as this can no longer be framed as good faith.

Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by brookst »

zelphirkalt wrote: post #663
brookst wrote: post #469

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I am terrible at computing sine and cosine, for sure. It doesn’t bother me.

On the surface, this comparison might hold, but when you look at software development as a craft, and therefore containing aspects of creativity and art, the comparison no longer holds.

Interesting take. So AI is the Ikea-ization of software, producing far cheaper / lower quality / less durable / more accessible product that is completely good enough for most people, but unacceptable to those who have the expertise to do it themselves, or the wealth to not care about price?

Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by brookst »

Zacharias030 wrote: post #590
brookst wrote: post #462

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I think the simple product prioritization explanation makes way more sense than a a second-order conspiracy to trick people into hoarding. Reality is probably that there’s a backlog item to implement a view, but it’s hard to prioritize over core features.

I hear OpenAI and Anthropic are making tools that are supposedly pretty good at helping with creating a view from a backlog. Back to the conspiracy ^^

If you’re on HN you’ve probably been around enough to know it’s never that simple. You implement the counter, now customer service needs to be able to provide documentation, users want to argue, async systems take hours to update, users complain about that, you move the batch accounting job to sync, queries that fail still end up counting, and on and on.

They should have an indicator, for sure. But I at least have been around the block enough to know that declaring “it would be easy” for someone else’s business and tech stack is usually naive.

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