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Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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On the contrary, they are the last one standing fighting Google takeover of the Web as ChromeOS development platform. Without Safari we are done, just close shop on the Web standards group.

This is a lesson in capitalism. It’s so much more profitable to ignore small users bases when you can just tell them to “try switching to Chrome”. I think you’re wrong about Safari itself being the reason chrome isn’t a 90%+ market owner; rather, it’s apple’s requirement that no other browser engine can exist on iOS.

It is exactly the same by another words

The moment Chrome gets free reign on iOS variants, it is about time to polish those CVs as ChromeOS Application Developer instead of Web Developer.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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> Firstly, a lot of web developers have stopped caring about the standards process. Whatever functionality Google adds is their definition of “the web”. Businesses who hire such web developers will lose huge amounts of sales, since 90% of visitors are on mobile and half of those are on Safari.

How do you think that’s going to play out once Apple are legally barred from mandating WebKit on iOS?

Web will finally become ChromeOS, takeover goal achieved.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Hmmm, according to this post [0], ad blocking lists must now be updated via store updates. Is that not the case? [0] https://old.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/17as8o8/the_r...

>Remotely hosted code, or RHC, is what the Chrome Web Store calls anything that is executed by the browser that is loaded from someplace other than the extension's own files. Things like JavaScript and WASM. It does not include data or things like JSON or CSS. https://developer.chrome.com/docs/extensions/develop/migrate... Rules are not javascript or wasm.

If I recalled it correctly, Chrome's developers imposed a stricter limit on dynamically loaded (fetched) DNR rules. That's why updating rules with the store is the more conventional method.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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The best bypass is to use Firefox. uBlock Origin works best in Firefox: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-b...

I can’t help seeing ad blockers as fairless content consumption, like choosing to download films, musics and books without paying the creator and the distributor (VOD, MOD, concerts, libraries…). Sounds great for you but how would that work if everyone would do the same? Although we all be happy to se more competition, using an ad blocker on Google sites (and G-add financed-sites) have no positive effect for the comp…

Running ad blockers for me is a matter of principle. The amount of tracking and telemetry that exists on the Internet is 1. massively invasive from a privacy perspective and 2. massively wasteful from an energy, bandwidth and time perspective.

If you have something worth selling, then sell it.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Its not happening

I switched to Firefox and it's been wonderful. I wonder why I didn't switch earlier. It's only been a couple of months, but I can't imagine going back to a browser without multi-account containers.

> I switched to Firefox and it's been wonderful. I wonder why I didn't switch earlier

Maybe because a few years ago it could be very annoying? It was mostly pretty good at rendering web pages but it had many UI problems that could really get on your nerves after a while.

For example somewhere around late 2020 or early 2021 after several years of using it as my main browser on my Mac I switched because a couple of those problems finally just got too annoying to me.

The main one I remember was that I was posting a fair bit on HN and Reddit and Firefox's spell checker had an extraordinarily high false positive rate.

This was quite baffling, actually, because Firefox uses Hunspell which is the same open source spell checker that LibreOffice, Chrome, MacOS, and many other free and commercial products, and it works great in those with a very low false positive rate.

Here's the ones I hit and reported: ad hominem, algorithmically, all-nighter, another's, auditable, automata, backlight, ballistically, blacksmithing, bubonic, cantina, chewable, coaxially, commenter, conferenced, counterintuitive, dominator, epicycle, ethicist, exonerations, ferrite, fineable, hatchling, impaction, implementer, implementor, inductor, initializer, intercellular, irrevocability, licensor, lifecycle, manticore, massless, measurer, meerkats, micropayments, mischaracterization, misclassification, misclassified, mistyped, mosquitos, partygoers, passthrough, per se, phosphine, plough, pre-programmed, preprogrammed, programmability, prosecutable, recertification, responder, retransmission, rotator, seatbelt, sensationalistic, shapeshifting, solvability, spectrogram, splitter, subparagraphs, subtractive, surveil, survivorship, synchronizer, tradeoffs, transactional, trichotomy, tunable, underspecified, untraceably, untyped, verifiability, verifier, webmail.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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> Politicians follow votes. we have enough data to show that this is not the case, in general.

Perhaps a better way to phrase it is to simply say that politicians are elected, and are nothing without votes. A politician isn’t even a practicing politician without votes. Democracy is ultimately driven by citizens. Of course politicians will do their best to influence public opinion (it’s their job) but are ultimately in service to it though elections. It’s why what people think (and vote) matters in a democracy.…

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Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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I'd gladly pay for YouTube without ads if I trusted that it would remain ad free, but the track record from various companies on this is not good.

Youtube premium has been ad-free for 10 years. What kind of track record do you need? 20 years? 100 years?

Youtube premium is still an ad driven business model. They are the ones making the problem worse so they can sell you the solution. The more you pay for Youtube Premium the more incentive they have to make ads worse.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Initially the increase in frequency of the advertising on Android youtube app. Followed by uBlock being broken in Chrome. Followed by uBlock being tarpitted in Firefox. Followed by FreeTube client getting 403 IP forbidden requests and DRM content shovelled down which could not be rendered. They just did everything to make sure I watched the ads and burn all my bandwidth, which can be somewhat limited and expensive as…

Did you consider YouTube Premium? It works really well and no ads. Seems like a pittance for the service YouTube provides

The value is the content not the delivery mechanism.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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> I don't know how to make an adblocker, so I decided to report the issue to Google in August 2023. > It was patched in Chrome 118 by checking whether extensions using opt_webViewInstanceId actually had WebView permissions. > For the report, I netted a massive reward of $0. Snitches get stitches, not rewards. FWIW, on Windows Google relies on the registry to determine weather to use V2 or V3, and it can be reenabled:…

No adblocking extension would ever rely on a clear bug to function. Google reviews extension code and would immediately patch the bug, and maybe use it as an excuse to kick the extension off the web store. I don't buy the idea that there was a viable second option here.
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