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Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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Ghostty is gpu accelerated. It’s super fast, and tmux in it is a joy to use. That combined with NeoVim gives me an increadibly smooth dev experience in the terminal, something I had never have with iTerm2 and emacs.

iTerm is also GPU accelerated.

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Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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Ghostty is gpu accelerated. It’s super fast, and tmux in it is a joy to use. That combined with NeoVim gives me an increadibly smooth dev experience in the terminal, something I had never have with iTerm2 and emacs.

iTerm is also GPU accelerated.

Configuration in XML, instead of YAML or TOML, it feels bloated, compared to Ghostty.

Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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Waymo aren’t build, maintained and disposed by robots only. Even if they were we’ve still to see how that can be deployed (and make sense economically) to more than a couple percentiles of the richest people in the top cities. That has nothing in common with "replacing the humans". Agriculture efficiency mainly comes from last century fertilizer. The modern robot trucks are also limited to some richest countries and…

You’re missing the point so completely, I don’t see why I should keep engaging.

If I missed your point you’d be wonderful to clarify it, perhaps by detailing the first post "replacing all products":

- what do you consider a product?

- ALL as in Everything (obviously not I guess)?

Regarding "don’t you see how robots…" I clearly see the theory but also can’t see how it would happen in reality for the reasons I mentions in my precedent post: mainly access to ressources/energy to build/maintain those robots for a signifiant time scale and socio-politico barriers.

I’d be glad you reconsider explaining your point because I only see vague allusions, but if you want to stop the conversation here that’s all up to you.

Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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Everything since ~2016 reads like a Dr. Evil plot! I swear it feels like the world is getting dumber around me.

100% agreed. You've reminded me of when I first watched Idiocracy in 2006. At the time, I delighted in the comedic, sophomoreish, and seemingly ridiculous take on a possible trajectory of humanity. But now much of it is actually coming to pass. It's sad. P.s. As a sidenote, apparently I love all of Mike Judge's productions, which also includes Office Space, and Beavis and Butthead.

Mike Judge does not judge wrong

Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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> unless the specification is so detailed that it's almost the implementation already. You mean… it’s almost exactly like working with interns and jr developers? ;)

Yeah, it's like an idiot savant intern who has memorized all the API docs in the world, but still somehow struggles to work independently.

And never remembers what we talked about 5 minutes ago on a different thread.

Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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Claude API pricing has significant margin baked in. I think it's safe to assume that anthropic is getting 80% margin on their api and they are selling claude code for less than that.

I assumed I pay a premium for a Max account to not have to worry about api costs getting stuck in a forever loop.

You are not paying a premium for a max account. You are paying much less than what you would pay if you were using the api directly.

Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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Works out for Google and the C-suite. Horrible for the employees. These fake-acquisitions are effectively arbitrage against employees, who get left holding nothing. Should be illegal and regulated. Not sure how the VCs get their cut. I'm guessing that Google can balance it out by participating in rounds for other startups in that VC's porfolio.

It is always the case that the employees get screwed

I recently read a reddit thread about how somebody made 12M on a stock that IPOd. But yeah the majority opinion is that employees get shafted.

Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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Yes - do you understand why?

Yes I do, it’s just for new comers who are used to cursor where, without careful prompting you just lock yourself out of premium requests, that’s not immediately a given that CC is more dangerous and does not work the same way at all. Of course it requires careful planning but the trap is easy to fall into.

In my experience, it's more about the tool's local indexing and aggressive automatic upload and model usage limitations to avoid them (and you) overpaying.

People are recreating this with local toolchains now.

Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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> Google will instead hire Windsurf CEO Varun Mohan, cofounder Douglas Chen, and some of Windsurf’s R&D employees and bring them onto the Google DeepMind team, [...] Google will not have any control over nor a stake in Windsurf, but it will take a non-exclusive license to some of Windsurf’s technology. [...] Google didn’t share how much it was paying to bring on the team. OpenAI was previously reported to be buying W…

If they acquire a company they might need approval due to anti-trust. If the people instead just quit their jobs and start working at Google … nothing to see here.

https://medium.com/@villispeaks/the-blitzhire-acquisition-e3... explores this some more. The remaining employees need to make it look like the business is still viable
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