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Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by slipnslider »

esafak wrote: post #657
ChoGGi wrote: post #650

Hard to say if I cared a wit for pocket, but fakespot was useful.

I had no confidence in fakespot's ratings.

I was always suspicious of Fakespot's ratings and had very little ways to properly A/B test. I would see products on Amazon - both with 4.5 stars - but one would have a Fakespot score of 1 star and the other would be 4 stars.

After that Honey expose I started to wonder if Fakespot was simply trying to steal the last click referrer and using its "we filter fake reviews" as a cover/lure to get people to use it.

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by kimberli »

patch_collector wrote: post #644
kimberli wrote: post #506

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That's so unfortunate--I've also used Pocket for a decade+. I had the Omnivore app installed on my phone as a replacement for the other infinite feed scrolling apps. I'm actually working on an open-source alternative at https://curi.ooo if you're interested in checking it out. It's a work in progress, but I'm building it primarily for my own use because I'm frustrated with all these services shutting down. The Kobo i…

I love how clean it is! One personal use case that I'd love to see supported (when you get your mobile apps implemented) is the ability to add articles via the 'share' shortcuts. I get mailing lists with links, and I don't want to stop to read an article while clearing out my inbox. So if a link looks interesting, I use the 'share' feature to add it to Pocket, and then I'll go back to it later -- without opening my b…

Yes, great suggestion. It's currently implemented in the beta Android app, just need to get registered with the Apple Developer Program and get iOS working.

Because Curio saves client-side, it opens the app and renders the page briefly though. Not sure yet if there's a better way to do it.

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by EA-3167 »

dudeinhawaii wrote: post #676

Sad to see Fakespot shutdown after purchase. I rely on Fakespot for a sort of ground-truth when navigating Amazon. When faced with 20 similar items, all having thousands of faked review scores, it was helpful to get the A-F rating. While these tools didn't really need to live in the browser, by purchasing and then killing them, they've done the web a disservice. "Fakespot's analysis of online shopping reviews didn't…

You know how it goes, embrace, extend, extinguish isn't just for MS anymore. I'm in your shoes here, Fakespot is really useful on Amazon when it warns you about a seller having problems for example.

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by jdlyga »

Mozilla fell into the trap of buying services and focusing all their efforts on integrating them without improving them. Mozilla needs to focus on their browser's UI. Nobody is going to buy into their ecosystem unless the browser is good. Arc Browser is the direction they need to go in. Firefox first got popular because its UI was radically better than anything else out there at the time.

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by metadat »

dudeinhawaii wrote: post #676

Sad to see Fakespot shutdown after purchase. I rely on Fakespot for a sort of ground-truth when navigating Amazon. When faced with 20 similar items, all having thousands of faked review scores, it was helpful to get the A-F rating. While these tools didn't really need to live in the browser, by purchasing and then killing them, they've done the web a disservice. "Fakespot's analysis of online shopping reviews didn't…

Yes, losing Fakespot is brutal! Will Mozilla consider open-sourcing it? Then someone who cares can pickup the torch.

This New "AdLand" Mozilla is way To Amazon's credit, at least now they do surface some junky items as"Frequently Returned", which I've found very useful to differentiate between and avoid the worst trash clones.

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by GuestFAUniverse »

gxqoz wrote: post #393
bayindirh wrote: post #287

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I have another theory, actually. I'm also a very old user, since the first days of the service, and I don't know how many saves I have it inside (will see when my export arrives). The latest iteration's search was abysmal , and I normally refrain from using strong words. It failed to find exact matches from titles, the words or excerpts I know that exist in the article I'm searching for, and as a result, it became a…

Yeah I have 32k saves and hit the same problems with search being extremely unreliable. About 5 years ago quotes stopped working in search. Trying to find "The Grapes of Wrath" would return all instances of "of" and "the." You could sort of hack it by searching for the most distinct word (maybe "Grapes") if you already knew exactly what you were searching for. I long suspected there was some architectural change they…

IMO search is garbage in all Mozilla products.

E.g. Thunderbird ignores potential matches in quoted mail text. That's utterly useless if one remembers a certain mentioning by the other side. Plus, now and then repairing the index suddenly leads to matches -- when is the right time to repair? I don't now -> always if it's seriously important...

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by fivestones »

asciimoo wrote: post #286
sambaumann wrote: post #99

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anyone have any good suggestions for a self-hosted option?

I'm using & developing Omnom (read-only demo: https://omnom.zone/ ). It is self-hosted, free software, fediverse compatible and creates 1:1 snapshots of the saved websites: https://github.com/asciimoo/omnom

This looks great! Does it capture the website from what is currently rendered in the browser, or does it get it through a separate get request? In other words, if I am on a site that is only locally available or is logged in, will it still capture the website?
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