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My new deadline: 20 years to give away virtually all my wealth

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Re: My new deadline: 20 years to give away virtually all my wealth

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Post by pclmulqdq »

nearbuy wrote: post #667
pclmulqdq wrote: post #597

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You may want to check your numbers because polio type 2 and type 3 are both still around (in fact, cVDPV type 2 is very, very common). The GPEI website has the recent numbers, updated weekly (although with ~3 month lag). 400k to 4k is not 400k to 0. Eradication means 0. People don't get smallpox vaccines today because we hit 0. American children get ~4 doses of IPV still, despite what you are claiming as "eradication…

You're conflating cVDPV with WPV. Despite both having a "type 2", they are not the same virus. Calling a few hundred reported cases a year globally "very, very common" is... a stretch. You have better odds of getting struck by lightning.

I am not conflating cVDPV with WPV. The parent comment claimed type 2 and type 3 polio were gone, which is not true. WPV 3 and WPV 2 are gone, but type 2 and type 3 polio are both still around. If you get polio today (unlikely but possible), there's a pretty good chance it's cVDPV 2.

Re: My new deadline: 20 years to give away virtually all my wealth

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Post by rswail »

kcatskcolbdi wrote: post #140
rswail wrote: post #78

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which part of "not only" and "but thrive" weren't relevant to his point? We've always known that babies need nutrition, but knowledge of the role of the gut microbiome, how to develop it and ensure it is healthy is relatively new.

We have known well before the gates foundation descended their giant pile of gold coin that nutrition was required for children to thrive.

Again, you missed the point about the knowledge about the function of the gut biome in maintaining health.

Re: My new deadline: 20 years to give away virtually all my wealth

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Post by rswail »

ipunchghosts wrote: post #586
rswail wrote: post #72

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Why do you think something that is getting extensive investment from private sources needs philanthropy? Also, billg has laid out the goals of his Foundation and what they aspire to achieve. Which one of those aspirations do you think should be replaced with "fundamental AI research"? A lot of the Foundation money goes on disease research and preventative and curative vaccine and medicine development. All of those ar…

AI as defined today is brittle. I am interested in understanding the fundamentals of learning so that systems can be learn as quickly as humans and have thier same level of robustness. Such a breakthrough would have a worldwide impact. As far as I can tell, very few places are looking into this topic area. Jeff Hawkins group is one of the few places. I would like to get involved as this area is my passion but I can't…

Sure, worthy of investment, not necessarily philanthropy.

Not part of the Gates Foundation mandate.

As for your personal interest, have you explored the availability of university research positions and/or grants?

Your lack of funding is not philanthropy's problem to solve.

Re: My new deadline: 20 years to give away virtually all my wealth

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Post by nearbuy »

pclmulqdq wrote: post #681
nearbuy wrote: post #667

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're conflating cVDPV with WPV. Despite both having a "type 2", they are not the same virus. Calling a few hundred reported cases a year globally "very, very common" is... a stretch. You have better odds of getting struck by lightning.

I am not conflating cVDPV with WPV. The parent comment claimed type 2 and type 3 polio were gone, which is not true. WPV 3 and WPV 2 are gone, but type 2 and type 3 polio are both still around. If you get polio today (unlikely but possible), there's a pretty good chance it's cVDPV 2.

So you you're saying you knew the two types of polio were eradicated but inexplicably assumed the parent comment must have meant the vaccine-derived poliovirus was eradicated. Or you think these are the same virus because you saw "type 2" in the names of both.

Re: My new deadline: 20 years to give away virtually all my wealth

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Post by pclmulqdq »

nearbuy wrote: post #684
pclmulqdq wrote: post #681

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not conflating cVDPV with WPV. The parent comment claimed type 2 and type 3 polio were gone, which is not true. WPV 3 and WPV 2 are gone, but type 2 and type 3 polio are both still around. If you get polio today (unlikely but possible), there's a pretty good chance it's cVDPV 2.

So you you're saying you knew the two types of polio were eradicated but inexplicably assumed the parent comment must have meant the vaccine-derived poliovirus was eradicated. Or you think these are the same virus because you saw "type 2" in the names of both.

I don't think these are the same thing. But when someone says that polio type 2 has been eradicated, that means the entire family of WPV, cVDPV, and VAPP. Not just WPV.

For all intents and purposes, yes, cVDPV is the same thing as WPV. There have actually been instances where cVDPVs have evolved into things that look quite a bit like WPV. Declaring victory over "type 2/3" because WPV is gone is meaningless when lots of people still get cVDPV and have exactly the same symptoms.

Re: My new deadline: 20 years to give away virtually all my wealth

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Post by VGS7 »

Several of you mentioned mission drift. I wholeheartedly agree - just look at Harvard Divinity School. Regardless of your religious beliefs, that drift is insane.

However, isn’t one fix for organizations simply to have committee by-laws that say the mission statement can’t be altered?

Seems obvious yet a neglected item.

Re: My new deadline: 20 years to give away virtually all my wealth

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Post by kcatskcolbdi »

rswail wrote: post #682
kcatskcolbdi wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We have known well before the gates foundation descended their giant pile of gold coin that nutrition was required for children to thrive.

Again, you missed the point about the knowledge about the function of the gut biome in maintaining health.

Oh, the gut biome! Dang, I thought it was magic spirits that caused the benefit of nutrition. Thanks Mr Gates for explaining to everyone that it was the gut's micro biome!

Re: My new deadline: 20 years to give away virtually all my wealth

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Post by rswail »

kcatskcolbdi wrote: post #687
rswail wrote: post #682

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Again, you missed the point about the knowledge about the function of the gut biome in maintaining health.

Oh, the gut biome! Dang, I thought it was magic spirits that caused the benefit of nutrition. Thanks Mr Gates for explaining to everyone that it was the gut's micro biome!

OK, now you're being deliberately obtuse. The impact of the type and capacity of the gut biome is relatively new research.

The impact of having caeserian delivery on an infant's initial gut biome is relatively new knowledge, which is leading to changes in healthcare delivery for child health.

Maintaining good gut biome health is also still being researched, as well as what actually is a good gut biome. Whether it is dependent on different locations, or diets and what are the side effects.

This is not just "good food is good for you" research that the Gates Foundation is funding.

It's fundamental basic research that pharma development is not focused on delivering that will lead to better health worldwide.

Re: My new deadline: 20 years to give away virtually all my wealth

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Post by codr7 »

Blankono wrote: post #477
codr7 wrote: post #385

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He did a good job at cleaning up his public image, no doubt that cost quite a fortune. Still the same greedy asshole though.

I don't think at all he is a greedy asshole. He did more good than anywone else on the planet at this point. Alone his money and the pledge he pused is breathaking. Why would you say he is a greedy asshole while he spends all his money to help humans? Trump is greedy. Musk thinks probably he is good but is greedy as f and wants to go to mars because he thinks earth cant be saved anymore. But Gates?

I don't need you to repeat the propaganda, I know what the official narrative is. And it's mostly lies, especially the part about Gates suddenly turning from asshole to saint.

Re: My new deadline: 20 years to give away virtually all my wealth

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Post by Blankono »

codr7 wrote: post #689
Blankono wrote: post #477

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think at all he is a greedy asshole. He did more good than anywone else on the planet at this point. Alone his money and the pledge he pused is breathaking. Why would you say he is a greedy asshole while he spends all his money to help humans? Trump is greedy. Musk thinks probably he is good but is greedy as f and wants to go to mars because he thinks earth cant be saved anymore. But Gates?

I don't need you to repeat the propaganda, I know what the official narrative is. And it's mostly lies, especially the part about Gates suddenly turning from asshole to saint.

'propaganda'?

First of, i do know his history very well, i'm quite aware that he was not a saint before but that doesn't change the fact what he is currently doing and it is very good.

Do you have anything real? Like real talking points? Real sources? aything besides just shitting at him?

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