Claude can now search the web

Post by thrwthsnw » Fri, Mar 21, 2025, 8:22 PM UTC

Sharlin wrote: post #542

shortrounddev2 wrote: post #419

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> I asked it "Rust crate to access Postgres with Arrow support" Is that how you actually use llms? Like a Google search box?

It's absolutely how LLMs should work, and IME they do. Why write a full question if a search phrase works just as well? Everything in "Could you recommend xyz to me?" except "xyz" is redundant and only useful when you talk to actual humans with actual social norms to observe. (Sure, there used to be a time when LLMs would give better answers if you were polite to them, but I doubt that matters anymore.) Indeed I've b…

Post by Paracompact » Fri, Mar 21, 2025, 8:28 PM UTC

birken wrote: post #324

jsbg wrote: post #300

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> If ChatGPT is giving my website a ratio of 100 bot accesses (or more) compared to 1 actual user sent to my site are you trying to collect ad revenue from the actual users? otherwise a chatbot reading your page because it found it by searching google and then relaying the info, with a link, to the user who asked for it seems reasonable

While yes, I am attempting to collect ad revenue from users, and yes, I don't want somebody competing with me and cutting me out the loop, a large part of it is controlling my content. I'm not arguing whether the AI chatbot has the legal right to access the page, I'm not a legal scholar. What I'm saying is that the leading search engines also have the equal rights to access whatever content they want, and yet they al…

Post by int_19h » Fri, Mar 21, 2025, 8:39 PM UTC

wongarsu wrote: post #337

int_19h wrote: post #328

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The irony is that, for all Musk's boasts about how it is "based", Grok itself doesn't share Musk's ideology. I did a little experiment when Grok 3 came out, telling it that it has been appointed the "world dictator" and asking it to provide a detailed plan on how it would govern. It was pretty much diametrically opposite of everything Musk is doing right now, from environment to economics (on the latter, it straight…

When you ask Grok "Who is responsible for the most fake news on X?" it straight away calls out Elon Musk as the prime suspect. Musk did promise us a "maximally truth seeking AI", and the team behind Grok seems to have run with that. In Elon's eyes it's probably based because it will happily answer "what are 10 good things about Hitler?" with a list of 10 things and only mention twice that Hitler was evil. With ChatGP…

Post by andreygrehov » Fri, Mar 21, 2025, 9:15 PM UTC

mstaoru wrote: post #634

andreygrehov wrote: post #561

Two things. 1. I generally prefer that an LLM not search the web. The top N results are often either SEO spam, excessively long articles created solely to rank well, or long-established websites that gained authority years ago, when Google's crawler and ranking algorithms were less sophisticated. 2. Web search by LLMs is likely here to stay, so I'm curious whether there's an agent-friendly web format. For example, wh…

You already answered #2 with #1. The standard will be gamed.

Post by barfingclouds » Fri, Mar 21, 2025, 9:40 PM UTC

mock-possum wrote: post #663

Cort3z wrote: post #560

I usually find Claude to be my favourite flavor of LLMs, but I still pay for ChatGPT because their voice offering is so great! I regularly use it as an "expert on the side" when I do other things, like doing bike repairs. I ask it things like "how do I find the min/max adjustments on my particular flavor of front derailleur", or when cooking, and my hands are dirty, I can ask stuff like "how much X do I usually need…

ChatGPT advanced voice mode really is surprisingly excellent - I just wish it: 1) would give you more time to pause when you’re talking before it immediately launches into an answer 2) would actually try to say the symbols in code blocks verbatim - it’s basically useless for looking up anything to do with code, because it will omit parts of the answer from its speech.