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For some ouroborus fun, I attached this whole HN discussion and asked Grok 3 to summarize (with specific focus on the members attitude towards Elon Musk). Here's what it came up with: https://x.com/i/grok/share/CTDC0WOi7RCbEDrm11AJ3PtLM
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What's remarkable to me about criticism like this is how quickly it's rebutted by people claiming "where did they say they would do this," as if these people don't make incredibly rushed and poorly planned decisions all the time. It's like an idea immune system that rejects any criticism or self reflection. It would be sociologically fascinating if it wasn't being combined with a dereliction of congressional power an…
I literally post for years the same thing about the need for open source alternatives to social platforms where 1 person controls the algorithm to prioritize what a billion people see. And the response is “meh”. No one even bothers to read past the first paragraph: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43036350 But if you really want to see the “immune system” shine, mention web3 and smart contracts, and watch the dow…
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It's a race for AGI, a VC's wet dream. The beauty of a failed investment is that it never goes below zero. So upside is the only thing they care about. Why invest in a near-zero chance for a random SAAS to take off, when you can invest in a near-zero chance of creating superhuman artificial life?
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DeepSeek wouldn't be able to train R1 without their ~600B parameters base model, so you should consider the cost of that model when you compare with Grok. In any case, Elon won't win this race cause the best talent will not work for him. He used to have good reputation and a lot of money, which is a deadly combination. Now he only has the latter -- not enough when leading AI people can make 7 figures in other compani…
It’s not like Grok3 didn’t have precious work to build on either, but point taken. I think the situations are a bit comparable given timelines however. A perfect analogy for AI … your ability to replace talent with money. And if you don’t have the talent, it’s gonna cost you 100x more.
That sure seems to be the message given in Apple AI commercials. From those commercials the tag line for AI should be "enabling idiots everywhere".
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How is he "looting" government funds ?
This creates numerous conflicts of interests and opportunities for self-dealing.
Consider a NASA employee that is awarding government contracts. They know all of the above. They have three bids in front of them. One from Boeing (lol), one from SpaceX, and one from Axiom Space. They NASA employee thinks the bid from Axiom Space is the best value and fits the requirements the best. But will they select them, or will they select SpaceX, knowing that they could be fired tomorrow by Musk's whim?
Repeat this scenario across every interaction any of Musk's companies have with the federal government.
This isn't a novel scenario. Putin's Russia is a great example of what happens when oligarchs are granted significant autonomy over organs of the government. It is a system designed to facilitate corruption.
You could assuage my concerns, though, by describing the ways that there is effective oversight over Musk, or by describing the anti-corruption anti-self-dealing measures that have been imposed on Musk. The Press Secretary gave a statement on this saying: "As for concerns regarding conflicts of interest between Elon Musk and DOGE, President Trump has stated he will not allow conflicts, and Elon himself has committed to recusing himself from potential conflicts." That...does not resolve my concerns.
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Here is an unelected NAZI and ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT (worked illegally on a student visa) who did a seig heil at the presidential inauguration taking up an informal unconfirmed-by-congress department head role (DOGE is just US Digital Services renamed) and getting wide access to government systems, and seemingly firing thousands of government employees.
Billionaires, who should not exist, are so rich that they don’t need government services and would rather the government go away so they can make more money. But regular people do need a government, and that’s just one reason of many why Elon shouldn’t be anywhere near policy decisions.
Now, you might say I’m being dramatic. But I’ll say there is no criticism of this man is unfair. He is one of the world’s biggest hypocrites, along with the other MAGA Nazis in his camp.
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It's a race for AGI, a VC's wet dream. The beauty of a failed investment is that it never goes below zero. So upside is the only thing they care about. Why invest in a near-zero chance for a random SAAS to take off, when you can invest in a near-zero chance of creating superhuman artificial life?
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What's remarkable to me about criticism like this is how quickly it's rebutted by people claiming "where did they say they would do this," as if these people don't make incredibly rushed and poorly planned decisions all the time. It's like an idea immune system that rejects any criticism or self reflection. It would be sociologically fascinating if it wasn't being combined with a dereliction of congressional power an…
I literally post for years the same thing about the need for open source alternatives to social platforms where 1 person controls the algorithm to prioritize what a billion people see. And the response is “meh”. No one even bothers to read past the first paragraph: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43036350 But if you really want to see the “immune system” shine, mention web3 and smart contracts, and watch the dow…
Don't bother telling people how it works. Show them who's using it and for what.
Oh, and for any kind of "normie" use it must have a decent moderation and anti-abuse system. Which inevitably clashes hard with "decentralized". Bluesky is succeeding because it lives in a contradiction of pretending to be decentralized, but what it really offers is the "pre Elon Twitter" experience. To basically the same people.
> the same group
While there's a certain amount of hivemind, it's rare that you see people directly contradict their own posts here; what you're seeing is different people.
Credit to the engineers that built this, but it fills me with rage that Elon has this sort of unchecked power. How long before this starts getting deployed in safety critical applications or government decision making processes? With no oversight because Elon seems to have the power to dismiss the people responsible for investigating him. Anyone not scared by this concentration of power needs to pick up a book.
I'm not sure how LLMs/AI couldn't consolidate power. By design, it will move power from the individual to those running the AI systems.
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That was fast. Perhaps we should imagine this has nothing to do with Musk to avoid completely derailing the conversation
It cannot. Musk is probably the most powerful person in the world now and intent on remaking the world to his vision.