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Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by beepbooptheory »

finnthehuman wrote: post #597
beepbooptheory wrote: post #565

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What kinds of experiences have shown this heuristic to be not so useful to you?

People often can't see past their own hostility when figuring out what a system 'does'. And now they have have a clever sounding way to pretend that they're describing a system with detached reason, not just describing their attitude towards the system. It's like a art review where a writer - completely unaware of what they're doing - talks only about the work, but says nothing about the work and opens a window into…

Your metaphor is not clear to me, but you seem to be asserting more of an empirical problem with people, not saying anything about the heuristic itself. It does not speak to how we know a system does what it does, or that we can even know I guess, so even if you have some kind of point here I don't see how it applies in this case.

"If we know what a system does, we know that it is its purpose": is that ok?

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by martin-t »

computerthings wrote: post #589
kortilla wrote: post #566

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> A jury quite quickly ruled against defamation here Yes, and? That changes nothing about Musk attacking a guy as "pedo" because he wanted to insert himself into the spotlight and went threw a fit when he was told off for that. Also, as if professionals aren't saying the same thing, or as if he'd voluntarily undergo clinical diagnosis?

I find it worrying how often people try to pass off a court's decision as truth or in this case as proof of something entirely different.

I looked at the guy's link and it actually supports my view even more.

> A JDart, lawyer Alex Spiro explained, meant: a Joke that was badly received, therefore Deleted, with an Apology and then Responsive Tweets to move on from the matter. JDart.

> "Bet ya a signed dollar it's true."

> "Stop defending child rapists."

Given he made up a 12 yo bride and hired a PI to dig up dirt, this also proves Musk lied to the court. I don't know why the jury gave the wrong verdict but I knew only about the original "pedo guy" tweet and the PI this morning and the deeper I dig, even into material posted by his supporters, the worse it gets.

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by uncertainquark »

berkes wrote: post #48

I'm not defending Twitter or their policy in any way (disclaimer: I left Twitter the moment Elmo took over. I despise his hypocrisy and his fascist ideas) But this could be a "legitimate f-up". Normally, most of these unsafe-url protection and detection is automated in something with the scale of Twitter. Just like URL-shorteners often are (were?) "seemingly randomly" banned, because a portion of the shared urls are…

Three issues with believing this: 1. How long does it take to undo this though even if it might be an automated screwup?

2. Why it isn’t getting banned on other social networks and only on X?

3. Didn’t X previously block Substack and Mastodon URLs?

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by bdcravens »

philipdavis wrote: post #374

Do people in the US still use X? If yes, why? What keeps you on the platform (so the owner is a tiny step closer to destroying your own country)?

Ironically, it's still the best platform in terms of reach for countering the propaganda of Elon and those like him.

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by lukan »

berkes wrote: post #48

I'm not defending Twitter or their policy in any way (disclaimer: I left Twitter the moment Elmo took over. I despise his hypocrisy and his fascist ideas) But this could be a "legitimate f-up". Normally, most of these unsafe-url protection and detection is automated in something with the scale of Twitter. Just like URL-shorteners often are (were?) "seemingly randomly" banned, because a portion of the shared urls are…

"Mark messaged Elon: Pls help me curb the growth of the biggest competitor of Whatsapp?"

Didn't they wanted to beat each other up in the public?

I would have prefered that concept and not shady deals. (and while it is of course possible, I really doubt it in this case)

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Post by alt227 »

aredox wrote: post #675
alt227 wrote: post #619

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People keep saying this yet there are countless people on X critisizing Musk freely, so it must be fine to criticise Musk on X. I can provide examples and already have done. Can you?

If I pretend to be fine with people criticizing me, that claims fails as soon as I block/ban/throttle one (1) person for doing that.

As long as criticism was 100% the reason for the ban and can be proved it wasnt related to anything else at all.

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by milesrout »

eesmith wrote: post #198
milesrout wrote: post #101

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It is about immigration. The mainstream parties can't fix migration because Germany's political system makes it almost impossible to form majority governments. Coalition politics and the cordon sanitaire force the CDU to work with the left and seemingly the left's only consistent political position is opposition to migration reform. The AfD aren't fascists and the attempts to win elections by just screaming slurs unt…

"Germany is a nation-state and always has been" Do you think the systematic repression of Polish people during the German Empire, which was seen as necessary to achieve the 19th century ideal of a nation-state, was appropriate? Because you make it sound like Germanisation was a good thing, as otherwise it wouldn't have been a nation-state. Quoting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanisation_of_Poles_during_... > With…

It was no more acceptable than any of the other things that happened in the 19th century.

How Germany became a nation-state, which was generally by the unification of German polities (like Italy, or as happened in France many many centuries earlier), is quite irrelevant to its status today as one. Poland basically expelled its German population after WW2 for example. There are presumably people still alive today that were expelled. That is much more recent history but it doesn't take away from the fact that Poland is a nation-state or make that somehow a bad or invalid status.

I didn't say it was a good thing to expel cultural minorities, and nation-states can and do obviously have cultural minorities without issue.

The problem is people denying that Germany is a nation, often denying the very notion that there is something validly called a nation. The problem is people saying that Germans don't have the right to control their borders and maintain their country as their country on this basis. There are people that think unironically that identifying ethnic groups is racist if you are doing it for any reason except to give "affirmative action" benefits to non-white ethnic minorities.

Your country is presumably the US so you likely have no actual conception of what a nation-state is. The US is not one.

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by newdee »

stainablesteel wrote: post #515
philipdavis wrote: post #374

Do people in the US still use X? If yes, why? What keeps you on the platform (so the owner is a tiny step closer to destroying your own country)?

i voted for that, i voted for the destruction of the federal government because it's bankrupting us by stealing our money

I’m reminded of this line from Stewart Lee, when talking about the disillusioned British working class voting for radical political parties/causes:

“A protest vote for UKIP is like shitting your hotel bed as a protest against bad service, then realising you now have to sleep in a shitted bed.”

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by blacklight »

berkes wrote: post #48

I'm not defending Twitter or their policy in any way (disclaimer: I left Twitter the moment Elmo took over. I despise his hypocrisy and his fascist ideas) But this could be a "legitimate f-up". Normally, most of these unsafe-url protection and detection is automated in something with the scale of Twitter. Just like URL-shorteners often are (were?) "seemingly randomly" banned, because a portion of the shared urls are…

The thing is that, in a platform based on link sharing, it should be known which domains point to URL shorteners.

Even if you automate their handling, the algorithm should know that, if it bumps into a say signal.me, bit.ly or goo.gl URL, it should first do a GET and then apply the algorithm to whatever is provided in the Location header.

Not doing this for a widely used URL shortener like signal.me is just a show of technical incompetence.

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by SiliconSplash »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #669
SiliconSplash wrote: post #378

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was simply pointing out two common misconceptions. There are obviously some restrictions on speech in every nation. However in the US the restrictions on speech by the state are far fewer than pretty much anywhere else and are enshrined by law. This is in stark contrast to other other Western nations such as the UK where there are far, far more restrictions on speech.

> I was simply pointing out two common misconceptions. With regard to falsely shouting fire, there are no common misconceptions. The common understanding of the saying is identical with the understanding in the judgment, and that part of the judgment remains good law. However, there is a modern meme that strives to obscure this reality by pointing out that the judgment reached conclusions that modern people generally…

There obviously was a misconception as evidenced in the link I provided. But believe what you wish.
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