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Smaller notch? Touch ID? Better battery life? Faster charging? Larger default storage? Nope, let's skip all that and spend most of the event talking about video recording. Is anyone here actually excited about the features they just announced? Or are people simply upgrading because they get the latest iPhone every year or two by default?

I’d be in favor of the massively improved battery life that would come from making the main body of the phone thicker. The camera bump is absurdly thick, and making the rest of the phone 1-2mm thicker would make the camera stick out less and add a lot of internal volume that could be used for a larger battery.

for me the issue would be not thickness but heaviness - iphone are quite heavy already comparing to androids even though the latter have batteries with more capacity. I switched from iPhone XS (177g) to iPhone 13 mini (141g) and really enjoy that it's much lighter. iPhones 16 pro is 199g.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

> If the iPhone would have true user-swappable batteries, their business would collapse.

It’s coming, the EU brought the USB-C port to the iPhone and in 2027 it brings user replaceable batteries too. [1]

[1] https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/07/13/new-eu-regulation...

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> All the spectacular advances in computing power are lost on her as this makes zero difference for the Facebook cat video group and Pinterest. Gonna disagree with this one. Tell me, does using an iPhone today feel significantly faster than the top model 2-3 years ago or even 10 years ago? Does the battery last a lot longer than it did back then? Apple certainly claims this is the case in their marketing every year.…

I've noticed overall improvements in responsiveness as well as the number of apps that can stay in memory without some getting evicted, though the latter is most noticeable when using smaller indie sorts of apps (think Ivory for Mastodon, Narwhal for Reddit, etc) which are on average built more efficiently and aren't dragging around a metric ton of tracking garbage.

This is what I notice as the only frustration with my 12 mini.

A lot of apps don't handle state changes to background well, especially social media apps where there's no reason to cache what content you were viewing.

The camera app is usually the culprit for things getting sent to the background for me.

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> If the iPhone would have true user-swappable batteries, their business would collapse. Battery replacement costs at Apple are $69-99 and offered all the way back to the iPhone SE 1st Generation. That's the all-in cost where you bring it in, they open it up, swap it out, and give your phone back to you. An OEM battery for an Android phone is like $50. Budgeting $69-99 once every 3-4 years hardly seems like it's goin…

Bring it in where? I have to drive an hour one way for an Apple store. It’s easier to order a new device than be without my phone.

Apple store doesn't even exist in my country.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

Feels condescending to assume people would not notice nor appreciate improvements.

You’re technically correct phones have reached feature parity, but how refined are those features is another story.

I can technically do whatever iPhones can do on an iPhone knockoff, but do YOU actually want to use an iPhone knockoff? Please.

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The more I watch, the sadder I get. It seems they've gone in the wrong direction. They have nothing to offer regular phone users, so they're targeting "creative professionals" with fancy features.

Do people cringe watching laptop updates too? Only niche, power hungry users feel constrained by hardware limitations these days.

I do think some of the Apple Intelligence features are going to be pretty useful for regular folks. I also think it’s going to be the case that after a few years people will forget how limited Siri used to be while taking for granted the improved performance.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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The Pro variant is unusually poorly differentiated from the base model this cycle: https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/ The 13 Pro had ProMotion, 14 Pro had Dynamic Island and Always On display, the 15 Pro had USB-C and the Action Button, the 16 Pro...has maybe slightly faster AI? 4k120fps video? USB-C w/ USB 3? Not things most people would care about. ProMotion/Always On is still limited to the Pro models which is…

For me 60Hz on the base model is now a deal breaker. Even our daughter's 300 Euro A54 has a 120Hz screen (though not LTPO). Once you are used to 120Hz on a touch device, it's hard to go back (different on a relatively static computer screen, where I prefer having the high DPI of 5k 27"). So, it's iPhone Pro models until the base model gets >60Hz too.

I read that sentiment often. But I am able to switch between my 60 Hz iPhone 13 and 120 Hz iPad Pro without issue. iPad Pro switches from 120 Hz to 60 Hz when low power mode is activated. I notice the switch but I easily adjust and not think about it.

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I used to care about my photos a lot. After accumulating a few decades worth of photos I've gotten to the point where I don't care about my photos at all. I used to obsess over megapixel count, portrait mode, FPS, lighting, and so forth, because I used to think that these amazing images would be priceless in the future. Well, the future came and went, and to me they actually ended up being worthless. At one time I ca…

For that reason, I bought some Fuji X100 and just take pictures with it if I need, for at least it's a fun exercise for actually thinking about what exactly do I really want to capture and why.

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i clipped the 5 mins on apple intelligence here for those interested https://x.com/swyx/status/1833231875537850659 notes: - photos/album search now includes video understanding, which imo seems very good from the first 2 examples they showed. includes scroll to exact time of the moment you describe. - Mail and Notifications will show summaries instead of str[:x] - Siri now knows iPhone, becomes the ultimate manual on…

"Insanely good ideas"? With the months of nonstop and over-the-top hype of "Apple Intelligence" these all seem underwhelming. Even in the idealized world of demoware there's no killer feature, not to mention that none of it is even available to real customers yet. I was expecting something only Apple could do with their vast ecosystem of IP and partnerships, the must-have cool new thing that would stimulate a leap in…

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