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Did your car witness a crime? Bay Area police may be coming for your Tesla

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Re: Did your car witness a crime? Bay Area police may be coming for your Tesla

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And you just escalated a drone flying above your house into a full out gun fight with swat teams and what not. It's not like you're going to win that fight.

Right, because the middle of nowhere has a swat team let a lone a violence trained police force. Tell me you’ve never left the city.

I'm pretty sure they'll do a road trip to your remote place if you start shooting at random things in the sky.

Re: Did your car witness a crime? Bay Area police may be coming for your Tesla

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yes there is a valid reason to be opposed to this. Yes everyone one wants to stop violent crimes and murders and that is not a bad thing. But as history has shown time and time again if the people in power decide to become a tyrant and start to abuse the technology then we have a problem. Imagine if this was around 60 years ago. You go into a bar. Some cars have driven past the bar right as you entered a few weeks pa…

What you are good at picking up is incidents. That is how we work. How many lives would be saved by using Tesla for surveillance is a lot less tangible, and thus, meaningless in direct comparison. Because there is no comparison, if we don't feel it compares. Whenever I see people seriously argue against statistics by leaning on stories, it tends to be complicated and sinister. If you are that afraid of your governmen…

It is not necessarily my government I am fighting for. Coming from the west I feel we sometimes lead the way for human rights and our standards should really be highly debated and analyzed to make sure they are what a society truly believes. If we start to say that mass surveillance is good and sure maybe we have checks and balances but another nation might not stop where we do. So to be opposed to complete surveillance is probably smart for now until we can decide what is the best way to address this. If you think Tesla cameras are so good you should also consider how good it would be if we all had cameras installed in every room in our house and the government could listen in every conversation and decide if we are good or bad or talk about crimes.

Re: Did your car witness a crime? Bay Area police may be coming for your Tesla

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>This might be setting a new precedent though. I'm making assumptions here, but I'd have thought that search warrants were historically used at locations where the suspect lived / worked / frequented. Search warrants exist to give police access to evidence when there's probable cause. Often times this is "at locations where the suspect lived / worked / frequented", but there's nothing in the jurisprudence that limits…

> They can and do break into premises That's fair enough to some extent. Not sure about the US, but in the UK they are also responsible for re-securing the access point when they leave, and I believe you can claim compensation for the repair work. Presumably also, if there were any thefts while the property was in this vulnerable state, the insurance company would sue the police to try to reclaim the money paid out t…

> To be honest, it seems unlikely they'd easily be able to contact the owner,

California DMV does collect the telephone or email address for each owner.

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