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Ladybird Web Browser becomes a non-profit with $1M from GitHub Founder

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Re: Ladybird Web Browser becomes a non-profit with $1M from GitHub Founder

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I don't even know what DRM brings to the browsers apart from breaking external monitors and blacking out screenshots All the content behind it is still available day 0 on trackers

Because the same parties interested in DRM in browsers (and everywhere else) are slowly working on making torrenting more difficult.

They were working on that years ago. After several decades with no success I think they've mostly given up and just profit from it now.

Re: Ladybird Web Browser becomes a non-profit with $1M from GitHub Founder

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Bravo Andreas, and thanks for working on keeping the Internet neutral. It's a thankless, titanic effort against the Goliaths that want to make it their playground, and us their loyal subjects. Can't wait for the day I can drop Firefox and use Ladybird full time.

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Get a hobby.

Re: Ladybird Web Browser becomes a non-profit with $1M from GitHub Founder

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post #662

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Because the same parties interested in DRM in browsers (and everywhere else) are slowly working on making torrenting more difficult.

They were working on that years ago. After several decades with no success I think they've mostly given up and just profit from it now.

What? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40693451

In what way do they directly profit from piracy?

Re: Ladybird Web Browser becomes a non-profit with $1M from GitHub Founder

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Hello friends, Ladybird founder here! Here's a short video from Chris Wanstrath announcing our non-profit yesterday, and kicking things off with a $1M donation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9edTqPMX_k Happy to answer questions :)

Are you aiming for 100% compatibility with modern web standards or are you aiming for some sensible subset of it? It seems to me that a large volume of code in Blink deals with obscure features with relatively niche use cases (such as WebRTC, WebUSB,WebGL, WebAudio and so on and so forth), which would mean a large amount of programmer effort for very little user-facing gain. Additionally, in these areas, web standard…

>niche use cases (such as WebRTC, WebUSB,WebGL, WebAudio and so on and so forth)

WebUSB is a lot more common than one might think, but I mostly see it used in music gear. Companies like Novation use WebUSB to facilitate firmware upgrades, backups, patch management, etc with their synthesizers and workstations.

Its pretty much a necessity for me at this point so that I can remain OS agnostic and still manage my gear.

Re: Ladybird Web Browser becomes a non-profit with $1M from GitHub Founder

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Here's a question, will accessibility be considered? I fully realize my HN contributions are a bit of a broken record but also, if I don't bring this up, it appears nobody does so here we are.

Is this going to work with screen readers, magnification, speech recognition etc? I guess a more abstract version of that question is: Does Ladybird intend to offer some kind of feature parity with existing solutions where integration with OS-specific accessibility architectures (UIA, AT-SPI2, etc.) are concerned? If not, it's a non-starter for quite a few people, and I'd rather know so I know to even keep up with this project or add it to the "user first but oh not actually all users first" pile :)

Re: Ladybird Web Browser becomes a non-profit with $1M from GitHub Founder

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Here's a question, will accessibility be considered? I fully realize my HN contributions are a bit of a broken record but also, if I don't bring this up, it appears nobody does so here we are. Is this going to work with screen readers, magnification, speech recognition etc? I guess a more abstract version of that question is: Does Ladybird intend to offer some kind of feature parity with existing solutions where inte…

How about you help build that if you want that?

Re: Ladybird Web Browser becomes a non-profit with $1M from GitHub Founder

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Here's a question, will accessibility be considered? I fully realize my HN contributions are a bit of a broken record but also, if I don't bring this up, it appears nobody does so here we are. Is this going to work with screen readers, magnification, speech recognition etc? I guess a more abstract version of that question is: Does Ladybird intend to offer some kind of feature parity with existing solutions where inte…

Whatever the non-profit tries to spin it, the reality is probably a no.

"User first" definitely doesn't mean targeting all 8 billions people on the planet.

Re: Ladybird Web Browser becomes a non-profit with $1M from GitHub Founder

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Don't know about oversized, it felt partly more that eg. Baker was mostly interested in Mozilla as a platform for activism, not in making a good tool for users. The new interim CEO seems to have breathed life into actual browser development.

The new interim CEO has been there for such a short time that she can't possibly have breathed life in anything (she managed to get sued by the former CPO for health based discrimination though, so there's that).

You can get sued by anyone for anything, but my read was that Mozilla's board intentionally wanted to avoid promoting from within because they fired Baker in order to try to change things. The first thing he was asked to do was lay off a bunch of people from the product team, and the complaint also says that Baker was removed suddenly (despite her characterizing it as voluntary) [0]. The board that just fired her can hardly be expected to follow her recommendation for who should be CEO next, and it seems that they weren't happy with the way his org was structured either.

We'll see what happens as the lawsuit unfolds, but I'd be pretty surprised if there is proof that the discrimination was health-based and not due to the fact that he was the CPO who worked with Baker during whatever it was that made them decide to fire her.

[0] From the complaint:

> The board decision to removle Ms Baker was so abrupt that they did not conduct a search for a successor, resulting in the naming of one of their own board members, Ms Chambers, as interim CEO.

Re: Ladybird Web Browser becomes a non-profit with $1M from GitHub Founder

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Here's a question, will accessibility be considered? I fully realize my HN contributions are a bit of a broken record but also, if I don't bring this up, it appears nobody does so here we are. Is this going to work with screen readers, magnification, speech recognition etc? I guess a more abstract version of that question is: Does Ladybird intend to offer some kind of feature parity with existing solutions where inte…

This is worthy goal, but it's approaching "perfect is the enemy of good" territory. By the numbers, in order to get broad adoption and power in the market, they should not focused on being the accessible browser. They need to nail making it a viable option for the greatest number of people at the lowest cost (which, at this point, is measured in time.) It needs to work as well as Chrome at operating web tech.

Re: Ladybird Web Browser becomes a non-profit with $1M from GitHub Founder

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I think you're grossly putting your own political viewpoint on this non-issue and frankly accusing someone of sexism based pro-nouns used in documentation. This is ridiculous. I can read documentation with "he" I can read it with "her". I am adult enough to know it's talking about a hypothetical reader. Fighting a culture war at every corner is just furthering the toxic environment we all live in.

If it's such a non-issue and doesn't indicate the predilections of the author, why not change it to be neutral? Where is the harm? Isn't being more inclusive on an open source project better?

It seems the author is taking an explicitly political stance by vehemently opposing something as simple as neutral pronouns in a README.

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