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Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Post by dorkwood »

drcode wrote: post #458
z7 wrote: post #295

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OpenAI says: "Sky’s voice is not an imitation of Scarlett Johansson but belongs to a different professional actress using her own natural speaking voice." https://openai.com/index/how-the-voices-for-chatgpt-were-cho...

Yeah, an ScarJo asked them to provide evidence of this before suing them, and they couldn't... and they have a track record of lying.

Why shouldn't we trust what OpenAI says? If they say they used another actress, we should give them the benefit of the doubt. Questioning them only gives fuel to their detractors, which could in turn slow progress and reduce investment in the space.

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Post by choppaface »

dvhh wrote: post #507
windexh8er wrote: post #497

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The thing about the situation is that Altman is willing to lie and steal a celebrity's voice for use in ChatGPT. What he did, the timeline, everything - is sleazy if, in fact, that's the story. The really concerning part here is that Altman is, and wants to be, a large part of AI regulation [0]. Quite the public contradiction. [0] https://www.businessinsider.com/sam-altman-openai-artificial...

Some people might see some parallel with SBF and see how Altman would try to regulate competition without impeding OpenAI progress

sama gets to farm out much of the lobbying to Microsoft’s already very powerful team, which spends a mere $10m but that money gets magnified by MS’s gov and DoD contracts. That’s a huge safety net for him, he gets to steal and lie (as demonstrated w/ Scarlett) and yet the MS lobbying machine will continue unphased.

https://www.opensecrets.org/federal-lobbying/clients/summary...

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Post by jonpo »

lolinder wrote: post #294
famouswaffles wrote: post #236

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>(A) it's not much better OP seems to be on the "They secretly trained on her voice" train. The only reason "Two Days!" would be damning is if a finetune was in order to replicate ScarJo's voice. In that sense, it's much better. >(C) it's extraordinarily reckless to go from zero to big-launch feature in less than two days. Open AI have launched nothing. There's no date for new voice mode other than, "alpha testing in…

I'm really confused by this claim. How is it that so many people tried this Sky voice if no one has access yet?

Sky voice is old

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Post by choppaface »

garbthetill wrote: post #669
ocodo wrote: post #561

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One is in jail, when it should be two are in jail

I dont like sam, but he moves way smarter than ppl like sbf or Elizabeth holmes. He actual has a product close to the reported specs, albeit still far away from the ultimate goal of AGI i dont see why he should be in jail

Should be in jail for Worldcoin which has pilfered people of their biological identity. I guess you could literally delete Worldcoin and in theory make people whole, but that company treats humans like vegetables that have no rights.

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Post by tavavex »

MBCook wrote: post #494
rockemsockem wrote: post #455

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Not commenting on open AI specifically, but I feel like actually acquiring the data is borderline impossible if you only follow legal channels. Where can I insert my money to buy every penguin random house book? How do I pay every deviant art artist whatever amount they're owed?

You could go to Penguin directly. Or perhaps the Authors Guild would help you set something up across publishers. All of deviant art? Probably not. But do you need to train on all of that? You could certainly run ads telling people you’d be willing to pay a small amount to train on their art and let them choose. Would it be legal to train against the national archives? Options exist. No you won’t get as much stuff as…

Ignoring the actual legality of using training data in machine learning, let's look at these "options" in a purely objective-driven way. If you do that, you'll quickly realize that what you describe would strengthen megacorporations to an even greater extent. If training on public data is banned, then the entities who have complete ownership of all their data would be granted a de facto monopoly. Stock image services, media conglomerates, music labels, industry giants would start in the winning position. When one side just gets their way for free and the other has to beg for scraps, do you really think this is a fair proposition?

The reason why open-source AI exists at all is that we've always been allowing use of public data - it was okay when Google did it, it was okay when the Internet Archive did it, it was even okay when text translation services used that same data to train their models - or really, that applies to basically anything ML-driven before generative AI.

There's, like, a sea of reasons to criticize OpenAI for - but arguing for extending IP laws even further and calling out opponents for "literal theft" is one of the weaker options that caught on with many people.

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Post by JoRyGu »

lawn wrote: post #633
ocodo wrote: post #560

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Altman has proven time and again that he is little more than a huckster wrt technology, and in business he is a stone cold shark. Conman plain and simple.

You'd think that Worldcoin would be enough proof of what he is but I guess people missed that memo.

Because of course he's got a crypto grift going. Shocking.

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Post by insane_dreamer »

ProjectArcturis wrote: post #449
anon373839 wrote: post #62

Well, that statement lays out a damning timeline: - OpenAI approached Scarlett last fall, and she refused. - Two days before the GPT-4o launch, they contacted her agent and asked that she reconsider. (Two days! This means they already had everything they needed to ship the product with Scarlett’s cloned voice.) - Not receiving a response, OpenAI demos the product anyway, with Sam tweeting “her” in reference to Scarle…

I'm beginning to think this Sam Altman guy isn't so trustworthy.

that took a while ;)

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Post by al_borland »

nickthegreek wrote: post #102
anon373839 wrote: post #62

Well, that statement lays out a damning timeline: - OpenAI approached Scarlett last fall, and she refused. - Two days before the GPT-4o launch, they contacted her agent and asked that she reconsider. (Two days! This means they already had everything they needed to ship the product with Scarlett’s cloned voice.) - Not receiving a response, OpenAI demos the product anyway, with Sam tweeting “her” in reference to Scarle…

This statement from scarlet really changed my perspective. I use and loved the Sky voice and I did feel it sounded a little like her, but moreover it was the best of their voice offerings. I was mad when they removed it. But now I’m mad it was ever there to begin with. This timeline makes it clear that this wasn’t a coincidence and maybe not even a hiring of an impressionist (which is where things get a little more w…

I had to go look at what voice I picked once I heard the news, it was Sky. I listened to them all and thought it sounded the best. I didn’t make any connection to her (Scar Jo or the movie) when going through the voices, but I wasn’t listening for either. I don’t think I know her voice well enough to pick it out of a group like that.

Maybe I liked it best because it felt familiar, even if I didn’t know why. I’m a bit disappointed now that she didn’t sign on officially, but my guess is that Altman just burned his bridge to half of Hollywood if he is looking for a plan B.

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