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Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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Post by djur »

celdon25 wrote: post #524
tensility wrote: post #464

This is not good enough, in my opinion. It's hard to treat the justice system seriously because of bullshit restrictions on victimless "crimes" like this. I'll only be okay with this if alcohol gets reclassified as Schedule III.

It's not really victimless when you have cases of psychosis and other health issues that negatively affect people around them, and put strain on taxpayers and the health system. This is Should be strictly prescription-only, and not with the rubber stamp model that "medical" marijuana clinics use. But that isn't politically correct so it's better to ignore the science and just drug the masses. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih…

The evidence that exists suggests that heavy cannabis usage _at an early age_ is associated with the development of psychotic disorders. No state that has legalized cannabis has permitted minors to purchase it. No evidence exists that cannabis usage later in life causes psychosis. There is also a lack of population evidence that increased cannabis usage among the public results in increased rates of diagnosis of psychotic disorders. And nobody is "drugging the masses" here. The government authorizing a product for sale doesn't force you to consume it.

Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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Post by mirzap »

grecy wrote: post #661
mxvzr wrote: post #646

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are there places where suicide is criminalized?

Suicide is illegal in many places https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_legislation

Illegal != Criminal. Most drugs are illegal in Portugal, but all are decriminalized.

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Post by danielbln »

moomoo11 wrote: post #396
dev1ycan wrote: post #21

I'm sorry but after seeing how american gradually get into worse and worse drugs, and seeing channel 5's video on people using tranq... yeah I think complete ban on drugs for non medical reasons is the best choice.

Make money for yourself and live your best life. There’s no point in caring too much about anything or anyone else. Free will and all that. Not my problem. I have insurances and pay for services. I’ve pretty much accepted that most people are just there to destroy society. So I stopped caring about anyone but myself. The only people I will get up and help are my direct blood relatives.

Ah, that American rugged individualism. That's why y'all can be homeless in a blink or medically bankrupt.

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Post by [deleted] »

lukan wrote: post #662
Takennickname wrote: post #630

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I don't get this line of thinking. Should suicide be allowed too? That would make this argument congruent, otherwise I can understand it.

"Should suicide be allowed too? " If we say that people own their body and their life - then yes, they can decide.

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Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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Post by mirzap »

danw1979 wrote: post #639
mirzap wrote: post #625

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Socialists really hate freedom, don't they? Somehow, it's always "capitalism" in question when it is, in fact, freedom. It's none of the government's business what somebody takes into their body. All drugs should be decriminalized anyway. Smoking and alcohol take millions of lives every year, yet we say "people have the right" to drink or smoke. Why is marijuana different, which is way less dangerous than alcohol, wh…

Can’t wait to hear what you think of the UK’s “smoke free generation” laws… https://www.gov.uk/government/news/prime-minister-to-create-... When you ask your government to look after your health, don’t be surprised when then start banning stuff that’s bad for your health.

Cigarettes are not criminalized. Criminalization != Legalization.

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Post by portaouflop »

m463 wrote: post #677
p1esk wrote: post #640

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Unfortunately different people often want different things.

Doesn't everyone want freedom, justice, fairness, etc. (unfortunately everyone doesn't agree on the definition of these terms) (also: "But apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?")

Romans have enslaved our children, raped our wives, desecrated our holy places and burned our priests. They razed our villages, slaughtered our herds, and forced our young men into their military service.

So glad that they brought us civilisation!

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Post by mirzap »

Takennickname wrote: post #630
mirzap wrote: post #625

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Socialists really hate freedom, don't they? Somehow, it's always "capitalism" in question when it is, in fact, freedom. It's none of the government's business what somebody takes into their body. All drugs should be decriminalized anyway. Smoking and alcohol take millions of lives every year, yet we say "people have the right" to drink or smoke. Why is marijuana different, which is way less dangerous than alcohol, wh…

I don't get this line of thinking. Should suicide be allowed too? That would make this argument congruent, otherwise I can understand it.

If it is not the result of mental illness, then yes. In Switzerland, you can go and legally end your life.

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Post by iancmceachern »

p1esk wrote: post #640
starspangled wrote: post #620

The greatest thing about tight, upcoming elections is that governments actually start to do a tiny bit of what people want. Great result.

Unfortunately different people often want different things.

Free will is fortunate, not unfortunate

Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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Post by djur »

dyauspitr wrote: post #634
sorwin wrote: post #563

Honestly, we should look to fix the issues that lead to people depending on weed, alcohol, and other drugs instead. These drugs are escapes for people - and a lot of them, especially younger kids get completely hooked on the escaped from reality from these drugs (including alcohol). We should instead be limit the use of these drugs and have teams dedicated to studying why people are turning to these instead. It's OK…

It could just be as simple as it’s a lot of fun. I smoked pot for a lot of years, not because I had a hole in me or anything, it was just a very fun way to go about the day. I haven’t smoked in a decade because long term usage led to mild agoraphobia for me but went away a couple of months after I stopped.

Yeah. I mean, it's a great accompaniment to some fresh fruit and cheese on a sunny day, a good album, maybe the company of a loved one. It never made me feel like a different person or like I was on a vacation from reality like alcohol could. I've known lots of people who smoke a little, or used to smoke a little and then stopped (I haven't for a long time), and also people who smoke a lot and seem to be doing fine, and also people who clearly smoke in excess, to their detriment. But I have to say that the worst potheads I've ever met seemed happy, healthy, and well-adjusted compared to the alcoholics.

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Post by mirzap »

vouaobrasil wrote: post #631
mirzap wrote: post #625

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Socialists really hate freedom, don't they? Somehow, it's always "capitalism" in question when it is, in fact, freedom. It's none of the government's business what somebody takes into their body. All drugs should be decriminalized anyway. Smoking and alcohol take millions of lives every year, yet we say "people have the right" to drink or smoke. Why is marijuana different, which is way less dangerous than alcohol, wh…

I am actually not against marijuana, nor am I a socialist. I am just pointing out its role in this case. Incidentally, I am against alcohol very much as well. I do not believe the government should regulate what goes in our bodies. I am just pointing out the way the government is using it as a tool. Frankly, I really don't care whether the government criminalizes drugs or not.

Look, I don't drink; I don't smoke; I don't do drugs. I did it all at one point. I'm not advocating for any of the stuff; on contrary. I advocate against using it. But people should have choice. Also, I'm advocating for not putting people in prison for possessing a plant and destroying their lives. How many young people have been destroyed who had a chance for a decent life, but everything was destroyed because of maybe one mistake they had made?
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