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Re: Gemini AI

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Post by scotty79 »

dontupvoteme wrote: post #452
tikkun wrote: post #60

One observation: Sundar's comments in the main video seem like he's trying to communicate "we've been doing this ai stuff since you (other AI companies) were little babies" - to me this comes off kind of badly, like it's trying too hard to emphasize how long they've been doing AI (which is a weird look when the currently publicly available SOTA model is made by OpenAI, not Google). A better look would simply be to sh…

He's not wrong. DeepMind spends time solving big scientific / large-scale problems such as those in genetics, material science or weather forecasting, and Google has untouchable resources such as all the books they've scanned (and already won court cases about) They do make OpenAI look like kids in that regard. There is far more to technology than public facing goods/products. It's probably in part due to the cultura…

> They do make OpenAI look like kids in that regard.

It makes Google look like old fart that wasted his life and didn't get anywhere and now he's bitter about kids running on his lawn.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by krzyk »

brainwad wrote: post #675
ithkuil wrote: post #652

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do they gate access at country level if it's about language. I live in Europe and speak English just fine. Can't they just offer it in English only until the multi-language support is ready?

Launching anything as a big tech company in Europe is an absolute nightmare. Between GDPR, DSA, DMA and in Google's case, several EC remedies, it takes months to years to get anything launched.

OpenAI somehow managed to do a release worldwide.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by corethree »

Google is uniquely positioned to bury everyone in this niche. Literally these models are based on data and google has the best.

It's pretty predictable. Sure OpenAI can introduce competition, but they don't have the fundamentals in place to win.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by hughesjj »

tempnow987 wrote: post #603
risyachka wrote: post #556

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google literally invented transformers that are at the core of all current AI/LLMs so Sundar's comment is very accurate.

But their first efforts in BARD were really not great. I'd just have left the bragging out in terms of how long. OpenAI and others have no doubt sent a big wakeup call to google. For a while it seemed like they had turned to focus an AI "safety" (remembering some big blowups on those teams as well) with papers about how AI might develop negative stereotypes (ie, men commit more violent crime then women?). That seems…

The big concern was biased datasets iirc and shit fits for people of color. Like clearly mislabeling feminine looking women as men, and a stupid high false positive rate for face detection.

That was relevant given they were selling their models to law enforcement.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by nojvek »

Google again making announcements but not releasing for public to validate their claims.

What's the point of it? They hype it so much, but the actual release is disappointing. Bard was hyped up but was pretty shit compared to GPT-4.

They released the google search experiment with bard integration but the UX was so aweful it hid the actual results. I use Sider and it is a muuuuch much nicer experience.

Does google not have folks who can actually productionize their AI with usable UX, or do they have such a large managerial hierarchy, the promo driven culture actively sabotages a serious competitor to GPT4?

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by spaceywilly »

guiomie wrote: post #371
tikkun wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To add to my comment above: Google DeepMind put out 16 videos about Gemini today, the total watch time at 1x speed is about 45 mins. I've now watched them all (at >1x speed). In my opinion, the best ones are: * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIZAiXYceBI - variety of video/sight capabilities * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPwU1FNhMOA - understanding direction of light and plants * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D…

Watching these videos made me remember this cool demo Google did years ago where their earpods would auto translate in realtime a conversation between two people talking different languages. Turned out to be demo vaporware. Will this be the same thing?

Meta ironically unveiled just this thing. An AI model that can translate in https://ai.meta.com/research/seamless-communication/

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by dash2 »

brainwad wrote: post #675
ithkuil wrote: post #652

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do they gate access at country level if it's about language. I live in Europe and speak English just fine. Can't they just offer it in English only until the multi-language support is ready?

Launching anything as a big tech company in Europe is an absolute nightmare. Between GDPR, DSA, DMA and in Google's case, several EC remedies, it takes months to years to get anything launched.

Two sad things:

1. This stuff is available in like Angola and Thailand but not in Germany or France. Oh how the European giant has fallen.

2. ... but it's also not available in the UK. So the long shadow of EU nonsense affects us too :-(

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by TheAceOfHearts »

My first impression of their YouTube plugin is a bit disappointing.

I asked:

> Can you tell me how many total views MrBeast has gotten on his YouTube videos during the current year?

It responded:

> I'm sorry, but I'm unable to access this YouTube content. This is possible for a number of reasons, but the most common are: the content isn't a valid YouTube link, potentially unsafe content, or the content does not have a captions file that I can read.

I'd expect this query to be answerable. If I ask for the number of views in his most recent videos it gives me the number.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by jbkkd »

johnfn wrote: post #444

Very impressive! I noticed two really notable things right off the bat: 1. I asked it a question about a feature that TypeScript doesn't have[1]. GPT4 usually does not recognize that it's impossible (I've tried asking it a bunch of times, it gets it right with like 50% probability) and hallucinates an answer. Gemini correctly says that it's impossible. The impressive thing was that it then linked to the open GitHub i…

I asked it and ChatGPT about a gomplate syntax (what does a dash before an if statement do).

Gemini hallucinated an answer, and ChatGPT had it write.

I followed up, and said that it was wrong, and it went ahead and tried to say sorry and come up with with two purposes of a dash in gomplate, but proceeded to only reply with one purpose.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by jazzyjackson »

dontupvoteme wrote: post #452
tikkun wrote: post #60

One observation: Sundar's comments in the main video seem like he's trying to communicate "we've been doing this ai stuff since you (other AI companies) were little babies" - to me this comes off kind of badly, like it's trying too hard to emphasize how long they've been doing AI (which is a weird look when the currently publicly available SOTA model is made by OpenAI, not Google). A better look would simply be to sh…

He's not wrong. DeepMind spends time solving big scientific / large-scale problems such as those in genetics, material science or weather forecasting, and Google has untouchable resources such as all the books they've scanned (and already won court cases about) They do make OpenAI look like kids in that regard. There is far more to technology than public facing goods/products. It's probably in part due to the cultura…

Damn I totally forgot Google actually has rights over its training set, good point, pretty much everybody else is just bootlegging it.
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