Why have OpenAI take to poaching employees from M$ now?
We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO
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Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO
#682I find it interesting that for all the talk from OpenAI staff that it was all about the people, and from Satya that MS has all the rights and knowledge and can jumpstart their own branch at the turn of a dime, it seems getting control of OpenAI proper was a huge priority. Given that Claude sucks so bad, and this week’s events, I’m guessing that the ChatGPT secret sauce is not as replicable as some might suggest.
Bard is better than ChatGPT-3.5.
But GPT-4 is indeed a class of its own.
Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO
#683The media and the VCs are treating Sam like some hero and savior of AI. I’m not getting it. What has he done in life and/or AI to deserve so much respect and admiration? Why don’t top researchers and scientists get equivalent (if not more) respect, admiration and support? It looks like one should strive to become product manager, not an engineer or a scientist.
There is a reason why the top researchers and engineers at OpenAI stood behind Sam. Someday you will learn the value of good leader
Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO
#684From a business sense, Satya was excellent. He made the right calls, fast, with limited information. Things further shifted from plan a to b to… whatever this is. Despite that, MSFT still came out on top. Consider if Satya didn’t say anything. Suppose MSFT stood back and let things play out. That’s a gap for google or some competitor to make a move. To showcase their stability and long term business friendly vision.…
Yep, outplayed like in chess. Started with a handicap, led the game to the stalemate, won the match.
Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO
#685"A source with direct knowledge of the negotiations says that the sole job of this initial board is to vet and appoint a new formal board of up to 9 people that will reset the governance of OpenAl. Microsoft will likely have a seat on that expanded board, as will Altman himself." https://twitter.com/teddyschleifer/status/172721237871736880...
They need a common man representing the board. After all AI will take those jobs.
I can be that common man
Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO
#686Disappointing outcome. The process has conclusively confirmed that OpenAI is in fact not open and that it is effectively controlled by Microsoft. Furthermore, the overwhelming groupthink shows there's clearly little critical thinking amongst OpenAI's employees either. It might not seem like the case right now, but I think the real disruption is just about to begin. OpenAI does not have in its DNA to win, they're too…
Buy Microsoft stock. Got it.
Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO
#687Disappointing outcome. The process has conclusively confirmed that OpenAI is in fact not open and that it is effectively controlled by Microsoft. Furthermore, the overwhelming groupthink shows there's clearly little critical thinking amongst OpenAI's employees either. It might not seem like the case right now, but I think the real disruption is just about to begin. OpenAI does not have in its DNA to win, they're too…
> there's clearly little critical thinking amongst OpenAI's employees either. That they reached a different conclusion than the outcome you wished for does not indicate a lack of critical thinking skills. They have a different set of information than you do, and reached a different conclusion.
When a politician wins with 98% of the vote do you A) think that person must be an incredible leader , or B) think something else is going on?
Only time will tell if this was a good or bad outcome, but for now the damage is done and OpenAI has a lot of trust rebuilding to do to shake off the reputation that it now has after this circus.
Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO
#688Disappointing outcome. The process has conclusively confirmed that OpenAI is in fact not open and that it is effectively controlled by Microsoft. Furthermore, the overwhelming groupthink shows there's clearly little critical thinking amongst OpenAI's employees either. It might not seem like the case right now, but I think the real disruption is just about to begin. OpenAI does not have in its DNA to win, they're too…
Microsoft played almost no role in the process except to be a place for Sam and team to land.
What the process did shoe is if you plan to oust a popular CEO with a thriving company, you should actually have a good reason for it. It’s amazing how little thought seemingly went into it for them.
Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO
#689At the end of the day, we still don't know what exactly happened and probably, never will. However, it seems clear there was a rift between Rapid Commercialization (Team Sam) and Upholding the Original Principles (Team Helen/Ilya). I think the tensions were brewing for quite a while, as it's evident from an article written even before GPT-3 [1]. > Over time, it has allowed a fierce competitiveness and mounting pressu…
Honestly I feel that we will never be able to preemptively build safety without encountering the real risk or threat.
Incrementally improving AI capabilities is the only way to do that.
Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO
#690The media and the VCs are treating Sam like some hero and savior of AI. I’m not getting it. What has he done in life and/or AI to deserve so much respect and admiration? Why don’t top researchers and scientists get equivalent (if not more) respect, admiration and support? It looks like one should strive to become product manager, not an engineer or a scientist.
Unfortunately the engineers aren’t usually the ones getting the praise but CEO or other singular figurehead.