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President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by zepto »

mytailorisrich wrote: post #521
gtirloni wrote: post #312

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're imagining wrong and assuming a lot of things. "Lightly suggesting" something is "difficult" is a conversation starter. Not arguing. Maybe we're getting into "cultural differences" area and we should probably agree to disagree.

I did not say that you were arguing. I just pointed out that you were starting a conversation that could lead nowhere pleasant for anyone so your guests probably wisely stirred away from it.

He said you are wrong. It’s hard to see why you would keep trying to undermine him.

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Post by throw10920 »

antiterra wrote: post #307

Which is stronger, our distaste for totalitarianism or our complete addiction to China’s market? It’s a dichotomy that leaves me confounded and unsurprised.

There's no "our" here. America is not a hivemind - it's a collection of individual citizens with very different perspectives. Personally, I would be alright with the price of my electronics doubling in exchange for us cutting off all trade with China, but I suspect that many of my representatives might not feel the same way...

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Post by Qub3d »

Benlights wrote: post #140
mensetmanusman wrote: post #52

The intimidation is real. The wealthiest billionaire athletes are afraid to lose millions of dollars and don’t even speak up.

I only know of one or two billionaire athletes, who are you referring to?

Lebron James comes to mind: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/lebron-james-angers-hong-...

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Post by killjoywashere »

jtms wrote: post #493

What an utterly toothless response to a direct assault on the values we, as a society, supposedly hold dear.

The university has disciplinary procedures, and referring the matter to that process is exactly the rule-of-law response that rule of law is intended for. The goal here is to respond in a way that defangs the CCP’s provocation.

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Post by aaaaaaaaaaab »

Jensson wrote: post #13

This is great, but I wonder how long these things will last? Big companies with a strong dependency on China tend take China's side, and since big companies controls the narrative I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes a social faux pas to criticize CCP in the future. China doesn't have enough power and influence for that to happen today, but what if/when their GDP per capita reaches the same level as US? At that poin…

Well, as John Cena put it: "bing chilling!"

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Post by gkop »

exclusiv wrote: post #661
gkop wrote: post #632

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Prices are discovered on the margin, I wouldn’t be so sure. I believe university administrators do care, anyhow.

Those students are meaningless to Purdue financially. They can replace those students in a heartbeat.

Please respond to my points. Prices are discovered on the margin, so losing a significant chunk of the students that pay full tuition, could certainly destabilize the market and cause challenges for university administrators.

Ok, say Purdue eats the acquisition cost to replace the 200 students. Those new students now need to be replaced by whatever school they would have otherwise attended, they have to come from somewhere. There exists some tipping point at which the system could unravel, maybe not 200 students but some number of students.

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Post by throw10920 »

marcus_holmes wrote: post #55
civilized wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps a fair point, but I don't think it's remotely comparable to the topic at hand. We're talking about Chinese-born students in America being ratted out to the Chinese government for exercising their free expression rights like model American citizens, even though they are foreigners. If I had the relevant Presidential powers, I'd offer citizenship to every one of the threatened students, and the rats would be se…

Kinda bizarre assumption that the Chinese nationals getting their education in the USA automatically want to become citizens of the USA.

Please cite the section of the comment that assumed that? I can't see it anywhere.

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

dehrmann wrote: post #656

Interesting side note: before becoming president of Purdue, Daniels was governor of Indiana. His successor in that job was Mike Pence. Daniels was also a rising star in the GOP, so he's a competent politician who got closer than most to actually dealing with international relations. He's also run Purdue differently than most administrators. He famously froze tuition, and he's using the name for an online school Purdu…

He froze (in state) tuition because the school is completely bankrolled by wealthy Chinese sending their kids to school. Every luxury car driving around town has a foreign student at the wheel.

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Post by killjoywashere »

CWuestefeld wrote: post #329
toxik wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whenever you think that you’re on the outside looking in, seeing the world for what it is while others seem blind, you should reconsider your perspective. The Chinese people is not some herd of sheep without mental faculties. I wince when I see quotes like these spoken about a people of literal billions.

Whenever you think that you’re on the outside looking in, seeing the world for what it is while others seem blind, you should reconsider your perspective. My wife's an immigrant, having grown up in Shanghai during the cultural revolution. She's got countless stories of how she was systematically lied to the entire time. For example, when she was little she was taught that children in America were largely starving too…

I wonder how much business Western cyber companies have with China? If I recall, the Great Firewall was actually started by a US company built out of either an IARPA or DARPA project. It wasn’t until many years later that DoD started using similar products, only then after they jailed (Shawn Carpenter).

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Post by cronix »

a_square_peg wrote: post #647

He needed to make this about harassment, not China. If the first paragraph was corrected to leave these parts out, I think it would be a much clearer case: From: > Purdue learned from a national news account last week that one of our students, after speaking out on behalf of freedom and others martyred for advocating it, was harassed and threatened by other students from his own home country. Worse still, his family…

It's a pertinent fact of the case and answers an obvious question most would have. After reading your proposed edit, since "that nation's secret police" is mentioned, the obvious question most would instinctively have is "what country are they talking about?"

Reading the letter as a whole, it seems harassment and free speech was the main focus. "China" is mentioned once, and "Chinese" is mentioned once.

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