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Toyota owners have to pay $8/month to keep using their key fob for remote start

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Re: Toyota owners have to pay $8/month to keep using their key fob for remote start

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That is just bullshit. A $8/mo charge for a app based remote start? I could live with that. Servers need power, the app needs updates etc. A $8/mo charge for something which does not incur costs for Toyota? Hell no. It seems like bit by bit - every single industry is going down a fucked up route. TVs with built in ads? Cars with pay-by-month features? DRM locked coffee machines? I really hope, there is some sort of e…

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Re: Toyota owners have to pay $8/month to keep using their key fob for remote start

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>What monthly fees of this nature are required to use other Apple products? Apple conveniently disallows people from making local backups encrypted with your own key, which means in reality you need to pay a monthly fee to store them on iCloud.

That’s just an outright lie, though. There’s Time Machine: https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/keep-your-time-mach... Or you can run any number of third party backup software.

They could be referring to iPhone, couldn't they? Which to my knowledge doesn't have Time Machine, a macOS feature.

I think it's best not to say something is a "lie" unless you have a strong basis for it, let alone asserting it is a "outright lie".

A lie is an intentionally false statement. It involves an intention to deceive. It's highly unlikely that someone on Hacker News would set out to intentionally mislead people who are familiar with the subject-matter and who know how to fact check.

At best they are "wrong", "misinformed" or "mistaken". Although, as said in the first paragraph, I suspect you're actually at cross-purposes with each other.

Re: Toyota owners have to pay $8/month to keep using their key fob for remote start

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Funny how taste works - I feel the opposite. In the case of a disease, there's really nothing she can do, and iirc the film implies the hard choice here was to decide to have a child even knowing that will die. In the car of an accident, there is the feeling that she could literally have prevented her daughter's death by preventing the accident, but "chooses" not to. The free will implications of that are much more i…

> the hard choice here was to decide to have a child even knowing that [they] will die Knowing that my children will suffer and die is the main reason why I didn't want to have any. Now I have two. Funnily, it's the same reason my own mother didn't want to have kids either. Yet, here we are. I suspect it is a pretty common feeling.

I still think it's the right decision not to have kids.

I myself would prefer not to been born (while my life is relatively easy)

In dune there is a story part were the ruler knows what he needs to do but also realizes that he is not strong enough and knows that his son has to fullfil it (I forgot what it is about) but I feel as soon as we achieve the ability to self determine things like if we want to make kids, we should stop doing it as we might not have the right to create new life.

Don't get me wrong, this is not black and white thinking: have kids if you want.

Evolutionary everything and everyone is programed to stay alive and procreate. Fighting against it is hard.

It's easier to make this life easier, better etc than staying your ground and not making kids.

We tried actually and it didn't work out after 3 month. That made it much easier to not try again. But as you see, thinking about it and what you do is not black and white.

Re: Toyota owners have to pay $8/month to keep using their key fob for remote start

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Having watched a burly firefighter take three good swings with an axe to bust out a window (to get to the hood release of an unattended car fire), I am extremely skeptical of this claim. Somebody on YouTube tested those emergency hammers and concluded they're basically useless. If you really want to break a tempered glass car window (I.e., any of them but the windshield), their recommendation was an automatic center…

Depends if you are trying to break the window from the inside or the outside. It's very difficult from the outside, and much easier from the inside (I cracked my windscreen and needed a replacement, because I was carrying a long piece of wood and it moved a little and contacted the windscreen).

Two things:

1) Are you me? I've done exactly this because I knew that my car fit a 10' board. Turns out when you're buying rough lumber 10' sometimes means 10' 2".

2) The windshield is laminated glass instead of tempered. It'll crack much more easily, but it'll (more or less) stay in one piece in the frame instead of shattering out into a million tiny bits.

Re: Toyota owners have to pay $8/month to keep using their key fob for remote start

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Having watched a burly firefighter take three good swings with an axe to bust out a window (to get to the hood release of an unattended car fire), I am extremely skeptical of this claim. Somebody on YouTube tested those emergency hammers and concluded they're basically useless. If you really want to break a tempered glass car window (I.e., any of them but the windshield), their recommendation was an automatic center…

> Having watched a burly firefighter take three good swings with an axe to bust out a window (to get to the hood release of an unattended car fire), I am extremely skeptical of this claim. Wrong window. You're talking about the windshield which is a completely different type of glass than other windows.

He was trying to break the side window. Tempered glass is super tough, until you damage the outer layer. Presumably the pick end of his fire axe wasn't sharp or hard enough to scratch that outer layer without a hell of a swing behind it.

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Is Texas an extreme environment? Not particularly, but still, it’s nice to get the air conditioner going a minute or two before getting into a car in August.

Open the windows maybe? Sure it's nice but I wonder if we should consider living without the luxury of having an ICE bring your car to the perfect temperature. I guess people have less GHG emission guilt as me.

The marginal amount of gas used by idling the car for a minute before driving it around rounds to zero.

Re: Toyota owners have to pay $8/month to keep using their key fob for remote start

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Re: Toyota owners have to pay $8/month to keep using their key fob for remote start

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That’s just an outright lie, though. There’s Time Machine: https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/keep-your-time-mach... Or you can run any number of third party backup software.

They could be referring to iPhone, couldn't they? Which to my knowledge doesn't have Time Machine, a macOS feature. I think it's best not to say something is a "lie" unless you have a strong basis for it, let alone asserting it is a "outright lie". A lie is an intentionally false statement. It involves an intention to deceive. It's highly unlikely that someone on Hacker News would set out to intentionally mislead peo…

Others in the thread have shown the corresponding iOS local backup options.

I don’t see much difference between “confidently stated but provably wrong in seconds via Google” and a lie.

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I thought the movie implied this as well? I include Arrival alongside Children of Men as an example of a case where the movie is better than the book (and I'm a big Ted Chiang fan) - changing the daughter's death from a climbing accident to a disease was much better imo.

In the book, it's impossible to act on information from the future, whereas in the film that clearly happens in the phone call near the end. This means that if the daughter had died in a climbing accident in the film, the mother would have to have chosen to let that happen/not warn her, whereas to avoid the disease, the only option would have been not to have the child. In the book, that wasn't an option; learning th…

"...impossible to act on information from the future..."

Might want to read:

Feeling the Future: Experimental Evidence for Anomalous Retroactive Influences on Cognition and Affect Daryl J. Bem Cornell University

https://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/features/psp-a0021524.pdf

This work has been replicated many times by others because no one believed it.

Also look up Decision Augmentation Theory.

Re: Toyota owners have to pay $8/month to keep using their key fob for remote start

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They could be referring to iPhone, couldn't they? Which to my knowledge doesn't have Time Machine, a macOS feature. I think it's best not to say something is a "lie" unless you have a strong basis for it, let alone asserting it is a "outright lie". A lie is an intentionally false statement. It involves an intention to deceive. It's highly unlikely that someone on Hacker News would set out to intentionally mislead peo…

Others in the thread have shown the corresponding iOS local backup options. I don’t see much difference between “confidently stated but provably wrong in seconds via Google” and a lie.

That's not what you said. You claimed it was a lie referring to Time Machine, not local backup options on iOS. macOS backup solutions are pretty much irrelevant, because it's obvious you can backup macOS using any tool you like, it's a desktop operating system where the user can run binaries with administrator privileges, unlike iOS. The compelling inference is they were talking about iOS, making Time Machine irrelevant to the discussion.

And there is a significant difference between offering an ill-informed opinion and lying. One can be reckless or negligent, but not a liar. To be a liar, they need to positively know they are wrong but post it anyway.

I was hoping you'd say it was simply used for rhetorical effect. I must say, I'm a little disappointed you're maintaining your position. Sometimes, it's best just to assume good faith.

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